Un-grooved Ax? Its a big un

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Un-grooved Ax? It's a big un

This piece is 13" plus long, 6.5 wide and 2.5" thick . Both ends nicely beveled and the bit edge has polish.
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Looks like it has a worked edge like a axe would .... Maybe it could have been an adze rather than an axe they were thinner in profile.... Btw nice buck
 

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Really nice one.... Wonder if they were going to put a groove on it or never intended to?
 

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i sure see a bit of a grove in the middle...don't I?
 

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Looks like it has a worked edge like a axe would .... Maybe it could have been an adze rather than an axe they were thinner in profile.... Btw nice buck


Oh yeah, the bevel was nicely formed , and it does have use polish. An Adze bit is not straight across like a celt or ax bit though so I am sure it's not one of them.

Thanks for the kind words about the buck. We met at sunset opening day a couple months ago.
 

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I bet that Buck did not have an axe to grind. both are sweet!
 

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Thanks for posting it Quito!
 

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That thing is huge!!! Where the heck did you add that one to the collection!!?? Looks to have been on its way to the groove........nice piece Quito,..............
 

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That thing is huge!!! Where the heck did you add that one to the collection!!?? Looks to have been on its way to the groove........nice piece Quito,..............


Good to see you active again gtp! This was acquired at an auction in ND saturday, and I'm really liking it. The size reminds me of some from the cache of 70 found in Illinois years ago. I saw them at the Collinsville show a few years ago.
 

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Of all the big hardstone at that auction, that is the one that really caught my eye.

I was thinking it was a big Mano/grinding stone. You see that shape develop on manos right before they are discarded on certain types of metates, but I really think that light groove was for hafting. And the usewear/polish isn't consistent with a mano/grinder. Personally, I think you have a massive ax like tool of some type. Maybe busting/cutting ice on the river? Smashing/fracturing multiple bison bones?

Here's a pic of the manos I mentioned look like.
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Of all the big hardstone at that auction, that is the one that really caught my eye.

I was thinking it was a big Mano/grinding stone. You see that shape develop on manos right before they are discarded on certain types of metates, but I really think that light groove was for hafting. And the usewear/polish isn't consistent with a mano/grinder. Personally, I think you have a massive ax like tool of some type. Maybe busting/cutting ice on the river? Smashing/fracturing multiple bison bones?
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My thoughts as well as far as not being a mano, the bevel shows wear from forming, and not the area normally doing the grinding.....

All of those large similar pieces I have show that polish on the very ends. A couple are very thin, and I am thinking possibly hoes on them, as the bits show more hard duty type wear around the polished ends.

Remember that nice poled celt with what looked like a mortar patch? I don't know if you heard the end of that discussion, but it turned out that was an Omar that hadn't dislodged or wore out. First one of those I've ever seen.

The mano's you show remind me of one I picked up in Az a few years ago, especially the one on the left.
 

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