Unknown - token?

[GaRebel1861]

Finally there has been a few days without rain and I got a chance to hunt an old home site that is now a plowed field. The site has produced some nice finds over the past couple years. My oldest coin from there so far is a 1837 Half dime and there have been several civil era buttons that have been recovered as well. This item was found laying out in a wash and I thought at first glance that it was another Indian head penny. Obviously, it's not but I'm not sure what it is. It a little bigger in size than a penny but far thinner. There is nothing on the back. In person you can see "United States of America" along the edge & "E Pluribus Unum". I thought maybe a button but, I cannot see where the shank would have attached.

Have any ideas?

 

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[Inspector]

That's a nice looking piece, congrats on the save and good luck identifying

 

[Tedyoh]

Possibly a Confederate Civil War dog tag...Union tags had the wing tips pointing up...Confederate wing tips down

 

[paleomaxx]

I found a similar one up here in New York and there wasn't an exact match, but it seemed to be an early variety of a US diplomatic service button:



Yours seems to be a very similar style; are there traces of stars around the edge? The number of stars corresponded to the number of states at the time of manufacture so I was able to date mine based on those.

 

[Digger RJ]

Nice!!! Congrats!!!

 

[Yak1366]

Very nice find, congrats!!!

 

[sataro]

Congrats on the nice find!

 

[GaRebel1861]

I found a similar one up here in New York and there wasn't an exact match, but it seemed to be an early variety of a US diplomatic service button:

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Yours seems to be a very similar style; are there traces of stars around the edge? The number of stars corresponded to the number of states at the time of manufacture so I was able to date mine based on those.

It looks very similar to mine. I cannot see any stars on it though also gives a hint of possible having been silver coated.

 

[GaRebel1861]

These are some of the other items that came from the same site. (Southwest Georgia)

 

[Steve in PA]

I have seen that design, or very similar on buttons. Here is one I found this summer, cuff size. However, the pattern on yours looks incised.

 

[fyrffytr1]

Jim,
I couldn't find a match in Albert's book. For those here that have looked at it, there are no stars around the edge. There are the words "United States of America" across the top half and "E Pluribus Unum" in a banner below that and above the eagle. Also, there is a type of edging around the front rim but not on the side as far as I can tell. The back is plain and I can't see any sign of an attaching loop. I think it may be a token.

 

[Whyme]

Wow, button or token it's really awesome looking! I really like it! Congrats!

 

[wayfas4u]

Nice historical find my friend

 

[GaRebel1861]

Nice historical find my friend

The deer hunters are finally out the woods and the fields aren’t too far away from being turned. Just a matter of time until we will be back hunting for relics at the old homesites.

 

[fyrffytr1]

I have good news and not so good news buddy. I found your item and it is a button. It is in Albert's book but here is the not so good news; it is listed as unidentified. This is what the book says:
UU132 Eagle with UNITED STATES OF AMERICA and E PLURIBUS UNUM above; 1-piece. It had a backmark that read "R. R & Co.*.*.*. rm (Raised mark) 14-17mm.
R.R & Co is a backmark used by the Robinson companies. From what I gather your button dates from 1820-1835. Although unidentified by Albert, Robinson had a contract in 1820 for artillery buttons and yours may be one. In 1835 the firm changed to R. & W. Robinson.
I'll bring my books the next time we get together and show you..

 

[fyrffytr1]

I have seen that design, or very similar on buttons. Here is one I found this summer, cuff size. However, the pattern on yours looks incised.
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I found your button while looking for Jim's but, as with Jim's it is unidentified. In fact they are variants of the same button. Jim's has an incised front where yours is raised.I can't tell from your picture but the E should be missing from the motto. Does your button measure 15mm? If you have Albert's button book it is on page 458-459. I put the information in a reply to Jim.

 

[GaRebel1861]

I have good news and not so good news buddy. I found your item and it is a button. It is in Albert's book but here is the not so good news; it is listed as unidentified. This is what the book says:
UU132 Eagle with UNITED STATES OF AMERICA and E PLURIBUS UNUM above; 1-piece. It had a backmark that read "R. R & Co.*.*.*. rm (Raised mark) 14-17mm.
R.R & Co is a backmark used by the Robinson companies. From what I gather your button dates from 1820-1835. Although unidentified by Albert, Robinson had a contract in 1820 for artillery buttons and yours may be one. In 1835 the firm changed to R. & W. Robinson.
I'll bring my books the next time we get together and show you..

Thank you for the ID!

 

[Professor of Engineering]

Killer relic, congrats!

I wonder if it may have been a button?

 

[A2coins]

I think that makes it even cooler nice. find

 

[wayfas4u]

that’s really good info fyrffytr1!!!