****************UPDATE************************

[ScubaDetector]

Some of you were following this thread:

http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/t...es/514974-tired-folks-trying-run-my-life.html

Court was today. Officer showed up. Not only were all three of the charges dismissed, I am ALLOWED to dive the Detroit river.

Because of a few people on here, I REFUSE to let anyone know the details and how I beat the citations.

BUT AS I HAVE STATED. I do NOT recommend for anyone to piss off a cop. I can and I will. I will also deal with the consequences. NOBODY with a badge and a gun will EVER push me around.

Nobody here runs my life and I don't try to ever tell anyone else how to handle theirs.

Have a wonderful winter all. I will be back in full force at my favorite diving hole in May.

 

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[Tom_in_CA]

....BUT AS I HAVE STATED. I do NOT recommend for anyone to piss off a cop.....

Scuba: Thanx for the followup. Congratz. And glad you clarify that you do not wish this to be some sort of suggestion for others to "flaunt their rights" etc..... It's always best not to spit in people's holy water. If I anticipate someone (cop, gardener, ranger, etc...) "might not like it", I choose to avoid the people in the first place. If that means detecting at night, so be it

 

[ScubaDetector]

Tom, as I said earlier I have always respected your posts. Sometimes I don't agree but that has nothing to do with respect.

IF an officer is a prick to me, I will return what is dished out, as long as I KNOW I am within my rights. I have had many many good conversations with officers that do not push their badge in my face. The ones that do, well lets say I just won't tolerate it.

HOWEVER, I did learn a few things. The disorderly conduct citation is VERY BROAD. Even though I was polite, that one could have stuck. We all know only too well that officers can and will lie on the witness stand. I was accused of swearing. That is one thing I NEVER do to ANYONE. The judge heard the charges against me and immediately said dismissed. That even blew me away.

I would have LOVED for the judge to hear how the sheriff took my dive flag and then I got a ticket for diving without one? Oh well, dismissed is dismissed and I will be back in full swing next April. Lets see what new adventures I can get myself into!

But you are 100% right. This was a time waster going to court. I could have got out. Let the chest thumping sheriff officers and boat leave the area and gone back in. I MIGHT do that if there ever is a next time. I won't tell people how to deal with a cop. I don't expect any arm chair lawyer to tell me, an ex cop, how to deal with a cop, BUT I will listen and am open to suggestions on how to handle a situation if it comes up again.

I do know me though. I had to leave the force after my parents were killed and it has affected me since the early 1990's. There is a BIG difference between an officer with a badge that is trying to keep the peace and one that thinks he is above everyone else and everyone has to obey his authority.

Peace.

 

[SirWalterRaleigh]

score one for the good guys. Way to go not letting yourself get pushed around!

 

[releventchair]

Thanks for the update.

 

[kcm]

Hey Scuba, are you sure there's not a bit of Texan in you?!?!?

 

[ScubaDetector]

Hey Scuba, are you sure there's not a bit of Texan in you?!?!?

Not that I know of. I think that after a person gets sick of supposed authority figures trying to push them around, they learn the laws and push back. I feel I need to be respected, just like officers feel they need to be.

So far I haven't been handcuffed and stuffed in a cruiser with all my scuba gear on. Time will tell!

 

[treblehunter]

I'm glad it worked out for you, I'll drive out to help you clear that river this summer!
Lol
Brad

 

[ARC]

Personally... if I were the judge... I would have said...

"If you have balls enough to dive in that ... then dive away".

heh :P

 

[Deft Tones]

Congratulations. Now how are you going to get those big balls stuffed into a wet suit? Perhaps with a little help from the deputy.

 

[bakkhoe]

Glad to hear that you won your case. My guess it that all this started as a result of some jealousy by a third party, of your success at recovery.
Good luck when it warms up!

 

[ScubaDetector]

Glad to hear that you won your case. My guess it that all this started as a result of some jealousy by a third party, of your success at recovery.
Good luck when it warms up!

Thank You.

 

[cooper1841]

Detroit River's muddy bottom conceals cannons, cars, guns

 

[fmrUSMC_0844]

Im glad it worked out in your favor.