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[1320]

Found this yesterday in a shelter, about three feet deep. The work on this piece is amazing to me. How the Natives could make flint "turn corners" baffles the heck out of me.

I've never seen this form nor material before, still learning. Help is greatly appreciated.

As a result of the replies to this post, I was able to properly field ID three more scrapers yesterday that might have otherwise been tossed aside. I am very appreciative.

 

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[Twitch]

Re: Form and Material ID requested

1320 - that's a classic thumbnail scraper form, and a nice one at that. I'll skip on dating it because I believe they're present through a wide range of times. Cool find. I have quite a few that are in cases along with points. They can be very well made and often are under appreciated as artifacts.

 

[ohio]

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Not sure where you are from but, it appears to be St. Louis green.

Chuck

 

[1320]

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Not sure where you are from but, it appears to be St. Louis green.

Chuck

Thanks Chuck, this was found in Eastern Kentucky.

 

[Th3rty7]

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Nice endscraper 1320. Alot of people call that form a duckbill scraper and to my knowledge they are associated with early archaic cultures. I think Chuck may be right on the material but imo it also looks like some Breathitt chert I've seen. Another high grade material that outcrops in Ky.

 

[PrimitiveOne]

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The bending around corners is actually an normal occurance of sorts. When flint, glass or whatever you want to call it breaks, it breaks in a cone (just like a bb when shot into a window). If you look at your scraper as a giant flake then shrink it in you mind it would fit right in one of those rounded edge flakes that curve. When spalling (reducing) out a big piece of flint, slivers that resemble this scraper are very common. So basically a flint core was hit with a hammerstone or a big device which popped of you scraper. Then the scraper had the same hit done to it only on a smaller scale (pressure flaking with an antler likely) to cause the same result on a smaller scale. Fun fact for ya.

 

[The Grim Reaper]

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Now that's a very nice Scraper. Great find 1320!!!

 

[pickaway]

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Nice find...

 

[1320]

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Thank you all, I'm very appreciative that you guys will take the time to help my learning curve.

 

[1320]

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1320 - that's a classic thumbnail scraper form, and a nice one at that. I'll skip on dating it because I believe they're present through a wide range of times. Cool find. I have quite a few that are in cases along with points. They can be very well made and often are under appreciated as artifacts.

Thanks for the ID and because you were so kind to steer me in the right direction, I was able to properly ID three more of these that I found last evening!!!!

 

[Treefrog]

man don't toss anything that has been worked, I keep anything that looks like its been beat on much and store em in coffee cans with the shelter name on it. If someday I sell what I have, they get all the digital photos of points,location, and cans of brokes and other misc that came from the same area and peoples most likely. I catch my selve looking back through my brokes and misc to see if it has material the same as points I find.

Tree

 

[brandywine]

Mr. 1320

That is very similar to a scraper I have.

 

[Get-the-point]

Hey Brandywine and 1320 be sure and grab everything. I have found on pieces that i normally would have tossed that little bit of extra work to them. Now I take everything until it goes through the toothbrush cleaning and i know it is only a piece of debitage. Then I will toss it. Generally thumbnail scrapers are Paleo to Early Archaic. That one scraper is a turtle back scraper in picture 5........................................... GTP

 

[mad.co.walker]

its amazing how earlier man could use pressure flaking to produce some amazing points and tools. i drool when i see an extremely pressured flaked point.