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Here ya go Jog Hoser John
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ALL I've ever asked is show me 1 instance/accomplishment(besides mt wallets)?ruling in court system where they have won a single thing recently and nuttn'---0-nyet-natha
The county system replaced the districts to guarantte your right to be heard along with the open meeting laws but completely ignored by these people also as NOT RELEVANT 
. Already done and in place--John
The county system replaced the districts to guarantte your right to be heard along with the open meeting laws but completely ignored by these people also as NOT RELEVANT . Already done and in place--JohnGravel Hog
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No Results! and a whole lot of hot air.... in the winter it be a good thing but on a day like today, 60 and sun, I will have to say Nay.
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I usually am a very positive thinker and and try not to let others responses get to me, but all I here from most of you Cal, dredgers is how everything is gone and it's over,you haven't seen anyone do anything to help, and that will never happen and so on and so on. Well I hate to say this but the New49ers have posted a lot on there web site about dredging in Oregon and there dragging a lot of Cal, dredgers up here, but if they have the same attitude that you guys on Tnet have I would like to just say "STAY HOME". We have finely got us a couple of Great Sherriffs up here in Oregon who are willing to fight for our rights and are working with the new mining district and I will support them 100%. You have several sheriffs in Cal that are willing to fight for you're rights but if all you want to do is complain all the time and have an I don't give a crap attitude that's fine. "KEEP IT IN CAL".
Just my 2 cents
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Merry Christmas,
Just my 2 cents
Jog
Merry Christmas,
Jeffro
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The Jefferson mining district and the Josephine county sourdoughs have done more for the State of Oregon regarding mining rights than most anyone else, ever. They are tight-knit, well respected, have great minds and representation in southern Oregon.
Gravel Hog
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jog said:
Sorry Jog.
Mc Crakhead is the whole reason things got this way and now he is watching out for his wallet again, sorry he picked your state to promote next.
I would make sure you get him the heck out of your back yard or you will just be another Cal.
Hey and best of luck on your sheriff/ mining district thingy. Can't see the MEG crap ever working and it is proven over the many years with no results at all.
We have seen a lot of stuff down here in Cal, I guess experience don't count as well as our right to speak.
Watch your wallets! Making and Taking is upon your doorstep.
Hoser John
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As usual GW--they post nuttn' but blah blah blah and ABSOLUTELY 0 RESULTS posted as usual,ain't it a peach. Show me the benjamins and not more hot air stay warm J as winter returning bud-John
stay warm J as winter returning bud-Johnrussau
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John posted this on other sites but its relavant here also! goggle H.R.3446 and get a look at wahts comeing down the pike! to me this .....stuff was written by some green lawyer and they are filling in the gaps /loope holes with this bill. all of these sec.s are threatening but pay particular attention to sec. 552......... also in 1866 Congress split precious metals off from coal/oil/and gas. now this bill is wanting to merge it back in with it! it looks like there isnt any stopping this .........stuff!
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Hoser John said:As usual GW--they post nuttn' but blah blah blah and ABSOLUTELY 0 RESULTS posted as usual,ain't it a peach. Show me the benjamins and not more hot air
Perfect example of why they don't have dredging in Cal, and why it won't ever come back.
Gravel Hog
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See if you feel the same way after mc crakhead and his new 49er goons press forward and execute their plans up there in Oregon,
have yourself a good close look at what really was the cause all our problems here in Cal and the effects of that cause.
Do us a big favor and keep him up there and we might have a chance then.
have yourself a good close look at what really was the cause all our problems here in Cal and the effects of that cause.
Do us a big favor and keep him up there and we might have a chance then.
Jeffro
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Dave was and still is an ardent supporter of mining and miner's rights everywhere. He's spent a helluva lot more money than any of us, fighting the good fight.
Funny how "divide and conquer" really works in media portrayal, eh? We'll turn on each other in a heartbeat, that's what they're counting on.
Gotta call BS on this line of thinking.
Stick together, for better or worse. It's all we got. United we stand and divided we fall.
Funny how "divide and conquer" really works in media portrayal, eh? We'll turn on each other in a heartbeat, that's what they're counting on.
Gotta call BS on this line of thinking.
Stick together, for better or worse. It's all we got. United we stand and divided we fall.
Gravel Hog
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Support? Hot winded wallet tappers and greedy promoters. LL NO. Plenty of support here but not the likes of those mentioned.
Jeffro
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Gravel Hog- to ease tensions just a bit here.... The Jefferson Mining District and Dave McCracken are completely separate entities.
The New 49ers is a commercial operation in business to sell memberships and such. Dave McCracken has done a great job over the years promoting his business and encouraging people to get into mining. He got nailed on trumped up charges which he spent over a million dollars of his own money fighting!
The Jefferson mining district is NOT a commercial recreational enterprise. They are a group of mine owners who stick together and fight legal issues together. They are not in business to sell gold mining vacations and the like. They are people like you and me, most own claims- some mine big, some are dredgers, some are hardrock, but they all band together and do what needs to be done for their district.
In short, they are NOT like the new 49ers or GPAA or any other gold mining "club".
Real people, real miners, real Sheriffs, real lawyers.
They are the reason gold mining is still around in southern Oregon.
The New 49ers is a commercial operation in business to sell memberships and such. Dave McCracken has done a great job over the years promoting his business and encouraging people to get into mining. He got nailed on trumped up charges which he spent over a million dollars of his own money fighting!
The Jefferson mining district is NOT a commercial recreational enterprise. They are a group of mine owners who stick together and fight legal issues together. They are not in business to sell gold mining vacations and the like. They are people like you and me, most own claims- some mine big, some are dredgers, some are hardrock, but they all band together and do what needs to be done for their district.
In short, they are NOT like the new 49ers or GPAA or any other gold mining "club".
Real people, real miners, real Sheriffs, real lawyers.
They are the reason gold mining is still around in southern Oregon.
Hoser John
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The real reason there is mining in Oregon is the BAMA,SWOMA,WOMA and ya'all got the best brain left in the biz --Tom Kitcher and the Governor of the state don't agree with ya as he screamed bloody murder because of them idjets invading after killing dredging in kalif---jus' keepn' it real-John
Jeffro
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I know Tom, and yes I'm pretty sure he and Kitzhaber don't see eye to eye. Not many clear thinking people see eye to eye with the Gubberner up here.
Other than that I honestly don't know what you said in the last post John. Are you for or against mining districts, as opposed to clubs?
I know one thing for certain, mining will cease to exist if we tackle to bureaucrats individually.
Other than that I honestly don't know what you said in the last post John. Are you for or against mining districts, as opposed to clubs?
I know one thing for certain, mining will cease to exist if we tackle to bureaucrats individually.
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Here is my thought on the subject.
I have been saying for a long time on this forum that "ALL" miners big and small need to unite and stand together no matter where or what state you are from.
I also have said that I don't believe that the CDFG has the power to do a lot of what they have been doing in Cal,. They don't make the mining laws and I don't believe they have the authority to manage Federal mining claims or mining at all. Last I heard there were several Cal, sheriffs that are standing tall against them and willing to take on the challenge. With the mining district forming and a lot of sheriffs standing together and "ALL" the miners they should get one hell of a fight, "OH" I forgot, we already did that, and been there and, I just don't know and, I I I I. Either S##t or get off the pot but stop the griping and start fighting......
I have been saying for a long time on this forum that "ALL" miners big and small need to unite and stand together no matter where or what state you are from.
I also have said that I don't believe that the CDFG has the power to do a lot of what they have been doing in Cal,. They don't make the mining laws and I don't believe they have the authority to manage Federal mining claims or mining at all. Last I heard there were several Cal, sheriffs that are standing tall against them and willing to take on the challenge. With the mining district forming and a lot of sheriffs standing together and "ALL" the miners they should get one hell of a fight, "OH" I forgot, we already did that, and been there and, I just don't know and, I I I I. Either S##t or get off the pot but stop the griping and start fighting......
Jeffro
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In all fairness Jog- John's been at it longer than we've been alive. Dredge designs of today are based on his designs from many, many years ago- he's been there, done that..... for real.
No idea where GravelHog got the idea this was a promotional scheme, but that's about as far from reality as saving the forests for spotted owls.....
I still can't figure how a guy would want to stand alone against the masses, but hey, to each his own I guess.
No idea where GravelHog got the idea this was a promotional scheme, but that's about as far from reality as saving the forests for spotted owls.....
I still can't figure how a guy would want to stand alone against the masses, but hey, to each his own I guess.
