WW2? Specialist collar brass?

[RebelYeller]

Maybe a WW2 collar brass?? Found it in my backyard yesterday, which used to be part of a larger farm. Any insight would be appreciated.

 

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[Loco-Digger]

They still use the same pins. hard to know when it was made. Now if it was a spc5 or larger then you'd know it was from the mid 70's on back.

 

[RebelYeller]

They still use the same pins. hard to know when it was made. Now if it was a spc5 or larger then you'd know it was from the mid 70's on back.

There are letters on the back, LIGI

 

[GaRebel1861]

Was the rank of SP4 used in WWII?

 

[Loco-Digger]

Can't be from WWII see the extract below I pulled from "Short History of the Specialist Rank" By CSM Dan Elder

The Army developed a program to separate specialists from NCOs, which gave birth to our current specialist system we now know. This program, which went in to effect 1 July 1955, grouped NCO grades E-4 to E-7, which had a corresponding specialist position that mirrored it. These new specialist would wear distinctive
insignia which is partially still in effect for the Specialist (E-4/SPC) of today.

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[GaRebel1861]

I was told that Specialists were made (E-4 to E-7) so that troops could get promoted and receive higher pay without having an "Army" of NCOs. By the time I was in, only the SPC existed for some reason. Army Corporals only existed in some artillery units and Infantry (I think?)

 

[Pointman]

I was told that Specialists were made (E-4 to E-7) so that troops could get promoted and receive higher pay without having an "Army" of NCOs. By the time I was in, only the SPC existed for some reason. Army Corporals only existed in some artillery units and Infantry (I think?)

I've only seen Corporal in units as you describe; in combat arms units. I went from Specialist to SGT.


I remember if someone was in an NCO slot, but hasn't left for school they would generally give them the Corporal rank or more often if they required a SGT slot filled, but the person who was going into it, didn't have the necessary school (Primary Leadership Development Course, Warrior Leadership Course) or boarded, they would wear the Corporal rank. I remember it being a "screw rank" because they were expected to have the same requirements as an NCO (staff duty for example) but didn't receive the pay of a SGT. I also remember there only being a small percentage that were allowed to be Corporals in the Battery or Company. I remember never seeing more than 2 in a unit at one time. Both Specialist and Corporals are E-4 rank.

The rank in question isn't old and was subdued and the paint has worn off of it.

 

[Loco-Digger]

Back in the early 70's SPC rank went up, I saw pins up to SPC7. They reduced it to just 1 rank SPC4. You are correct, you had to be combat arms to be a corporal. A corporal out ranks a SPC7 since it is a hard stripe. The Army then made it mandatory for you to have attended PLDC to become a SGT, and then you had to attend BNCOC to get promoted to E6 and then ANCOC to become and E7 and so forth.