11/7/04 Sebastian Inlet Metal Detecting

[CaptainZossima]

Okay. The wife and I spent four hours today working the area just south of Sebastian Inlet. We accessed the beach at the new? park. Zilch. Not even new stuff. The speaker at the Salvager Museum informed us there has been MAJOR sand added in all the beaches. I mean like tons! She recommended I head 4 miles north to BonSteel where the sand is more 'original'. Again, zilch. We later went to the Satellite Beach (further north) where stories had been printed about recent gold coins etc. The beaches did seem much lower and smoother? and darker. Older? maybe. Here's bottom line; Did it ever occur to anyone that most of the coins, solver, gold, artifacts etc. were on the beaches but AT THE BOTTON of the sand? The divers blast ten feet holes to reach the hard botton. Can this be where all the beach treasure is? And to think that MOST detectors only go down 9-12 INCHES! Hello! I see the beaches as virgin debris fields. I believe it's a mater of utilizing new trechnology like GPR to find the beach Mother Lode. Would like to hear from you 'thinkers' out there. Today Could have Been The day! Cap Z. out to sea, lost in a sand dune.

 

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[JohninCT]

It could be true that in some areas there could be some small deposits of treasure down deep on the beaches, but first off, there is an awful lot of beach area, and then the state sure wouldn't let you dig those big holes in their beaches to try to find it. If you got some signals real deep, they wpuld have to be large stuff and it would require earth moving machinery. Then it could likely be junk at that. In some areas, I would think the soft sand settles to a hard pack at some depth, maybe with rocks and stones or shells thrown in. Well anyway, that's why people look for new cuts in the beaches where the better probability for finds are. It isn't as easy as some people make you think.

 

[coinshooter]

Hey Capt., you should be a brain surgeon the way you figured that out! Just kidding!
Yes, you are exactly correct. This is why any time you find a construction site along the beach where they are digging out the sand from a depth of 8-10 feet or more, hit it hard. I would not discount the fact that they put all that new sand on the beach, first thing I would try and do is find out where it came from and if it had been filtered or not. Usually coins, rings, and jewelry will make their way to the hard layer which may be a ways down under all the beach sand. We can't move it, so we are dependent on nature to do it for us. I found a 1912 V nickel a while back where they were doing deep digging to replace parts of our boardwalk that had been trashed over the years. If you see this type of stuff hit it up. Other places are where you see old pilings along the beach that indicated a pier was near and older streets that ended at the beach (go right in front of these on the beach). 8)

 

[Dragon]

My theory is that ALL of the coins are LONG GONE, and I only say this because I went there up and down the treasure coast right after the first hurricane this year, and the second one, and the third one, and the fourth one! The sand from the dune line to the water was completely GONE as in a 6 to 15 foot "cliff" where there used to be beach sand. Of all the people there and all the one's I talked to nobody found anything worth talking about, and alot of debris & junk. I think all of the coins are washed out to sea, or just under the water line (now prohibited to be searched by the scumbag lawyers who run the "State of Florida"). Where did all that millions of tons of sand go? Right back where it came from. Unless it gets re-deposited on the beach anytime soon, the powers that be will continue to cover up history to entice beachgoers to come back and make the economy try to work...just me 2 cents, and yeah I'm pissed at the way we "treasure hunters" are treated...

I happen to agree with this guy...
"It depends on whos doing the searching..treasure hunters are always going to be the greedy ones in alot of peoples eyes. Archeaologists...have the one thing that looks good on the surface but can be misleading as to motive...and that is a piece of paper from an education, that says you can "grave rob"...excuse me....I mean "recover in a systematic manner", the bodies, property,religious items of the dead, from any nation, in any location and have the protection of the Govt in many instances (not to demonize archeaology it's good in many cases), versus people like us who just get the cold shoulder by the govt, how many people with metal detectors in this country have uncovered or unearthed a valuble piece of our nations history, only to be attacked by people with a degree, for "robbing a historical site" without scientific inquiry. Ok I'm no scientist but you take 1 CSA belt plate + 140 years in the ground+ acid rain and chemical runoff = The NEED for metal detectorists today.I think if you can save an item from decay, you have arrived as a historical preserver. This or any other senario is why we as a hobby matter in this world! Why any time YOU go out you may find that missing link..and hey it doesnt have to be nationally historical, you may piece together a local history, even finding out what people did in their day to day years ago....YOU don't need a degree...just good common sense, a good detector and a BIG good luck from me!!"

http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,1338.0.html

 

[JohninCT]

Well I kind of agree with most of what you say, and I would add that don't forget that the archeologists are usually getting well funded to do the hunting they do, where the common treasure hunter is not. This treasure hunting community has been getting beat on since the early days of Art McKeee finding the first treasure wrecks down in the keys. He had to fight the govt to keep part of what he found and no one even knew or cared that it was there before him. Somehow Mel Fisher found a way to please them and got contracts over everyone else. I got a feeling there was some kind of undertable dea,l as there usually is with govt officials when it comes to big bucks. I have heard many stories through the years, about many of todays famous treasure hunters being scoundrals in one way or another. But I do realize that you would probably have to be sneaky in order to make a living at it. As for the treasure coins on the beaches, I don't think there are many in the flat part of the beach, and if there are, they are in cuts which have had over 200 years to sink to a decent level, (the finding of the cut in 1984 with over 2000 coins proves that) but many may be in some areas in the forbidden dunes which might have some scattered or some small caches, and unless the hurricanes tear them up , or a house going in, then they will stay there. And as for this guy that recently found the batch of coins on the beach or wherever, funny how it is a guy who works for the Fisher group isn't it? There were other people out there also, but just a Fisher employee hits it big. The treasure community is filled with strange stories and happenings, but most of us never really know the rest of the story. As you can see I am skeptical of what I hear most of the time. I been around for 61 years and been a treasure fan since I heard Treasure Island story when I was about 8. I have always had an interest since then and have kept aware of many aspects of the treasure community. I heard more sure to find storys of maps and treasures, and know most never found anything. I found beach hunting for modern stuff, and Civil War relic hunting to be the real way to find treasure, and it is legal too.. Good huntin, John

 

[Jimi D Pirate]

I agree with what you say. I look at it this way ... It would be easy for a salvage diver or sport diver to find something on the bottom of the ocean and not say a word about it until after a hurricane or north-eastern, then report it as a beach find. "I just found it washed it washed up on the beach!" Especially a GOLD coins. That way you could keep 100% instead of the 40% you would get as a sub-contractor under the Fisher deal. "Believe nothing you hear and only half of what you see" when it comes to finding treasure "on the beach"

 

[syd]

I went down to Sebastian on the northside and right when i got down the walkway I noticed one of Mel's boats 35-50 yards off the beach placing markers. That excited me, but from now reading some of the forums that I was just swinging in fresh sand. Thats it. lots of built up fresh sand. The only thing that was found was a screw, can, bottle cap and a plastic Pirate eye patch in some sargassem. I'm watching Irene to see if she kicks up enough power for the weekend, I might go to Wabasso.