1715 FL;EET -- UBILLAS PATACHE BOUGHT IN CUBA * the mari a galante -english prize

[ivan salis]

1715 FL;EET -- UBILLA'S PATACHE BOUGHT IN CUBA * the mari a galante -english prize

many people think that Ubilla bought a local Cuban built vessel --not so he in fact bought a vessel take as a "prize vessel' off of Echeverz in cuba --that Echeverz took for illegal trading while in South America ... the former English owned galante class vessel named Mari (welsh for "mary" with a I instead of Y) --- called by the Spanish the "mari galante " since the Spanish go name of vessel then type of vessel -- like thus ---- Arizona battleship ---whereas we English speakers would say the " battleship Arizona"

Echeverz tok a total of 3 prize vessels off of south America --one French (the El Ciervo) , one dutch ( the Olandisa / senor de la popa / San Miguel ) and the English prize --(the Mari - partly owned by the English govenor of Jamaica --Hamilton ) -- the patache had a official listed treasure of 44,000 silver pieces of 8 onboard

 

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[grossmusic]

That's how I interpret things too, though I'm not sure we know it as fact that Ubilla's ship was bought from Echeverz. It makes sense. Echeverz had too many ships & not enough crew, & Ubilla kept losing ships but had plenty of crew, so it was a win-win.

Mind boggling that with Ubilla's nautical record & the fact that the King was "losing faith" in Ubilla he was still in charge of the entire flotilla. No wonder they wrecked with him in charge.

 

[ivan salis]

well its known that ECHEVERZ HAD TAKEN 3 PRIZE VESSELS WHILE "DOWN IN SOUTH AMERICA " ==ONE FRENCH , ONE DUTCH AND ONE "ENGLISH"--- when Echeverz left Havana , Cuba (after a long and costly delay awaiting Ubilla coming from Mexico with his vessels ) he was "ship rich and cash poor " and needed to raise funds to supply his vessels with food for the return trip ..Unilla was in bad need of a small "patache / messenger type" vessel for his fleet (having lost all 4 of his fleets small vessels while at anchor in Mexico due to a bad storm that wrecked the at anchor vessels in the harbor ) -- the smallest of the 3 "prize vessels" of Echeverz was the "English prize" Mari ...a galara type vessel that was 25% owned by the English gov. of Jamaica --Hamilton--- only 2 prize vessels the Dutch and French are listed as being in Echeverz 's fleet upon his departing Cuba --with the loss of a vessel from Echeverz's fleet and one being gained by Ubilla's fleet --its fairly logical and clear what occurred