✅ SOLVED 1800s era site unknown items

[Patriot Relics]

Hey guys,

Looking for helping identifying two items I dug today near the foundation of an old colonial building. The first tag appears to be made of tomac with a pressed image. The second is a gear like item made of copper- possible pistol component? Any ideas-

Thanks

 

[cudamark]

The last item looks like a grommet.

 

[coachbedford]

for the first item i am getting the "vibe" of a 1600's counterstamped spanish copper 2 or 4 maravedis coin

 

[GaRebel1861]

The second item is off a parasol.

 

[OWK]

looks a bit like this..

 

[redbeardrelics]

The first photo, of the second item, looks like it might have some internal ribs or splines? If it has some internal splines it would resemble the drive sprocket that I just replaced on my Husqvarna chain saw. Otherwise, I like the parasol and grommet suggestions. HH

 

[johnnyi]

I've dug up a handfull of these over the years as have probably most of us have who prefer hunting old sites, and I always assumed they were grommets. Come to think of it though, I don't remember ever finding more than one at a spot, while grommets (the kind we usually think of) I'd usually find in numbers at a partticular spot. I'm looking forward to finding out exactly what they are.

 

[CoilyGirl]

Am 100% sure the last item is part of an early made parasol.

 

[TheCannonballGuy]

The second object is definitely from an antique umbrella's shaft-&-ribs structure. See the parts in the 1875-dated US Patent diagram, which was drawn by the inventor.

Also, here are four photos of an intact antique umbrella's metal parts, showing the Patent-diagram's parts in real-life. It was dug (and posted here in the What Is It? forum) by our fellow T-Net member Ironman... I'm publicly giving him the credit for that.

 

[johnnyi]

Well done GRebel and coily gal and Cannonball. I had never paid the repect due to these "parasol slides" that they deserved (if for nothing else than to date a location.) You CAN teach an old dog new tricks!

 

[Patriot Relics]

Outstanding feedback guys! Thanks for all the help

 

[wayfas4u]

thanks for posting the patent diagram Cannonballguy, good stuff!!

 

[TheCannonballGuy]

You're welcome, Wayfas4u. It's hard to argue about a relic's ID when there's a US Patent diagram showing it, and the date of its invention. Researching US Patents has become a treasure-trove of reliable ID info for us relic hunters & collectors. Every US Patent, with time-dating, is now viewable online, for free, at:
www.pat2pdf.org

For example, a US Patent diagram proved beyond any doubt that the brass objects which have been sold for decades as a "Confederate blanket-roll buckle" are in fact a civilian-usage horseharness buckle-shield, invented in 1892 by Mr. R.A. Wooding. See the photos below showing some of them, and the 1892 US Patent diagram. (The "bullseye" one was dug by T-Net member Got2dig.) The one in the inventor's diagram doesn't have a decorative emblem, but it is clearly the same thing shown in the photo.