1820s 1830s shot gun cartridge found today

[jimmy uk]

Found this little beauty today don't normally hype about them but this one is a real early one. Found it on pasture land about 8inchs down.

 

[worldtalker]

Jimmy,I like old shells,here's a few from around here.GodBless HH Chris

 

[Westfront]

Like these pinfire casings. They don't come up often... I want to find one from a rifle....the ones from a shotgun are more common. Nice condition!
Worldtalker, is the brass casing from a shotgun too?

 

[worldtalker]

Like these pinfire casings. They don't come up often... I want to find one from a rifle....the ones from a shotgun are more common. Nice condition!
Worldtalker, is the brass casing from a shotgun too?

Westfront,yes it is,not sure of it's age though.

 

[Westfront]

Im far from a specialist in shotgun casings, but i think it must be an early one. Never seen one coming out the ground here. Much better find than the hundreds of driving band fragments we have...

 

[worldtalker]

Im far from a specialist in shotgun casings, but i think it must be an early one. Never seen one coming out the ground here. Much better find than the hundreds of driving band fragments we have...

Some soil is kind to copper and brass here,especially in the farm fields not used in in 130 yrs.

 

[stefen]

Check the dates...

Earliest brass shotgun shells with centered primers were manufactured in the 1870'S...(as a side note, low base shells were used in shotguns with Damascus barrels...a hammered steel as opposed to forged steel)...high base shell used with forged steel barrels...which could withstand the pressure of added powder loads...

Prior to 1870's, all shells were made with a paper powder charge in muzzle loaders (exposed hammers with flint cap)

LeFever made one of the first hammerless-breakover shotguns still using Damascus steel.

Not familiar with the pin fire version.

I own and use the above mentioned shotguns, however, am not able to post a picture today using an iPad...

 

[Westfront]

Thanks for the info Stefen!

 

[allan]

The pin fire was invented mid 1820's and patented in 1835, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinfire

 

[kuger]

The pin fire was invented mid 1820's and patented in 1835, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinfire

Yes

 

[kevkirki]

diffrent i like it

 

[hammered]

Jimmy,I like old shells,here's a few from around here.GodBless HH Chris

Now that's a cartridge, I've found nor seen anything that good over here, well done worldtalker


hammered

 

[kuger]

Jimmy,I like old shells,here's a few from around here.GodBless HH Chris

Now that's a cartridge, I've found nor seen anything that good over here, well done worldtalker


hammered

Thats odd?They were very common here.I had an old shooting range that dated back to the late 1800's that was loaded with the brass casings,I have a few left,I gave most of them away,but we still find them all the time