? 1865 Indian Head 30 degree rotated rev.

[bula]

I have the chance to buy a 1865 Indian Head cent that has a 30 degree rotation on the reverse. He has graded the coin at xf, I do not think it will go that high but close. The question I have what's it worth, he is asking $30

 

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[enamel7]

My opinion is if you don't think it will grade that high you are probably paying too much. That said, I would have to see the coin first to try to put a grade on it. Entirely up to you.
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[Rooter]

If it is XF I think that's a fair price. Actually that degree of rotation is pretty common so not really considered an error. A lot depends on the condition of the surface and color as well. Any evidence of cleaning? Is it a plain or fancy 5?

 

[bula]

Rooter , I do not know anything about the fancy five (what is that) & the coin is dark drown & looks as though it has never been cleaned. Almost as if it were a dug coin. The detail is there liberty is sharp & the rest of the details are good.

 

[Rooter]

Bula, The 1865 IH cent date came in two versions. It's a little difficult to explain the difference in words. The way to tell the difference is if the ball on the end of the bottom of the 5 extends beyond the vertical straight line it's a fancy 5. If is even with the vertical line and kind of curved in it's a plain 5. The top of the fancy 5 is also more sharp, pointed. and hooked. The plain 5's are much rarer and carry a little premium. If you post a picture I could tell you. Are there any of the 4 diamonds showing? The texture of the coin should be smooth and not pot marked or rough.

 

[bula]

Rooter, I have not bought the coin yet, but will be looking at it again monday. I think I will offer the dealer $20 for it & see what he will do. I am not that big on the Indian Head Cent but do like the rotation even knowing that it does not bring up the price up that much.

 

[Rooter]

Yeah, it's always OK to offer less. All he can say is no or counter offer. I'm an IH collector so I love em'. I just wanted to give you my opinion on the price. If it is XF, if he won't budge, if you really want it, $30.00 is an OK price. Good luck! Post pictures if you buy it.

 

[bula]

Yeah, it's always OK to offer less. All he can say is no or counter offer. I'm an IH collector so I love em'. I just wanted to give you my opinion on the price. If it is XF, if he won't budge, if you really want it, $30.00 is an OK price. Good luck! Post pictures if you buy it.

I appreciate your advise & help on this coin, Thanks