1939 MERCURY CUD????

[port ewen ace]

getting some flak from an Ebayer over this coin I have listed. he claims it is solder and there is no upset of reverse surface. I applied direct heat for 10 seconds with a propane torch with no change to the blob. it is as hard as the rest of coin. I will be sending to NGC for certification. cannot find any other '39's with this CUD. all opinions appreciated.

 

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[FreedomUIC]

They may not even grade it. It looks heavily whizzed.

 

[tokameel]

Thanks for the good photo. If a thumb nail or walnut shell pressed on the "Cud" left a mark, that should have determined if it was soft lead solder. Coin was cleaned. My guess is that it won't be professionally graded because of that.

I never heard of the torch method, but I wouldn't try it. Might get false toning.

All that being said, it might be a fun keeper. If more turn up, she still might have some extra value.

Ace250s rule! At least for many of us.

 

[l.cutler]

It does look like it could be solder, may be silver solder which is harder and melts at a higher temperature than lead solder. It looks like it could be a little dab on the reverse too right below and to the left of "D" in dime.. What does the reeding on the edge look like in that area?

 

[Emperor Findus Cladius]

I would have to vote for solder. You can see a definite defined rim in the left area of the blob of metal. If it was a true cud, the metal flow would go uninterrupted to the edge of the coin, as a cud is formed from a piece of the die breaking off.

 

[port ewen ace]

thanks all for your feedback. taking her to my LCS today for his opinion. coin was found in a bank roll

 

[doninbrewster]

I think you have to ask the question, what causes a cud? The answer is that a piece of the die broke during striking. If that is so, there would be others. To me, the best example of a cud on a very rare coin would be the 1787 Vermont copper, Ryder 15. 1787 Vermont Copper - Ryder 15 It does appear to me that your dime has been soldered to use as a pendant. For what it's worth I was a contributor to the Guide Book of United States Coins (the Redbook) for about 10 years, but my specialty is colonial coins.
Don Mituzas

 

[port ewen ace]

thanks, Don. I am now so bummed since most opinions are not what I was hoping. maybe next time. your finds are always amazing down the river.

 

[coinman123]

I found a pretty nice cud in a coin roll one time. Your cud is a pretty nice one too. Most cuds are barely noticeable.



Coinman123,

 

[Professor of Engineering]

I do not think they will grade it do to other coin issues.

 

[huntsman53]

I agree that it is not a Cud and is probably Silver Solder as the rim appears to be still somewhat visible which would not happen if it were a true Cud due to a Die Break! With a tru Die Break Cud, there is no rim and just a blob (Cud) of metal. Besides, the metal flow of a Cud is usually more uniform and doesn't have uneven bumpiness to it.


Frank

 

[jerseyben]

getting some flak from an Ebayer over this coin I have listed. he claims it is solder and there is no upset of reverse surface. I applied direct heat for 10 seconds with a propane torch with no change to the blob. it is as hard as the rest of coin. I will be sending to NGC for certification. cannot find any other '39's with this CUD. all opinions appreciated.

You are wasting your money.