nugget said:
Krugger, break of a piece of your suspect "rock" and put it in a pastic bucket. Cover it over with (fill enough to cover the rock) hydrochloric acid. In USA we would use bottled acid that is sold for using in swimming pools. A little hard to find in Mindanao but available in Davao, or just strong commercial HCL. If it is cement or cement mixed with decoy rock, in a couple of days it will all be dissolved. If it is real rock, it will still be there. If it is limestone or a calcite type of rock it will dissolve but not like a cement based object. Try a piece and let us know what you find.
Zobex
Zobex said:nugget said:
Krugger, break of a piece of your suspect "rock" and put it in a pastic bucket. Cover it over with (fill enough to cover the rock) hydrochloric acid. In USA we would use bottled acid that is sold for using in swimming pools. A little hard to find in Mindanao but available in Davao, or just strong commercial HCL. If it is cement or cement mixed with decoy rock, in a couple of days it will all be dissolved. If it is real rock, it will still be there. If it is limestone or a calcite type of rock it will dissolve but not like a cement based object. Try a piece and let us know what you find.
Zobex
may i know what is the difference of the dissolved limestone or calcite type of rock from the dissolved cement based object, using hydrochloric acid? is it the color? or the texture?, one more thing, there are some stories that upon pouring an acid on the stone, it immediately dissolved? how come immediately,,,is it hydrofluoric acid they use?
Peace!
GPR said:i just dont have any news from them..........im just asking if you know them......thanks....
Zobex said:GPR said:Zobex
are you talking about Toril area? humor says trucks are buried along with the treasures.....we have farm properties in that area previously own by a Japanese guy name Furokawa....our farm have been visited by many treasure hunters few years back....two american treasure hunters mention 200 feet deep....can you believe that? why so deep? .....i remember one japanese treasure hunter ask my dad to start the digging in our farm....but has to do some rituals which my dad refused.....why the rituals?.....i know most treasure guides believe about spirits....that is why i understand why you post that photo with the shadow ghost....and yet it was just a camera trick or a photo shop effect.....i have no doubt about japanese treasure buried in the philippines..... but those treasure hunter who tend to be so extreme....just like one TH guy who said that he can see deep down by letting his spirit travel...![]()
.....three years ago another treasure hunter talk to me about communicating with "another world"....i also have no doubt that some treasure hunters are crazy or they are "possessed".........i always like to be an indiana jones.....hehehe........but please no spiritism....lets be scientific.....right Zobex?
GPR
GPR I laugh. Is that your Dad's property?? Ask if they find skeletons in a hole near the site of the old house now just the cement foundation site, under the Mango Trees. A lot of scrap metal found there, but it is POST WW2 water pipe fittings etc. That is all I saw. The scraps of broken bowl were both pre and post war. They can stop digging around the foundation, it is not there.
I have been there and walked the site. No I was not the gringo with the weird stories. BTW there is nothing now or ever in that small tunnel in the rock wall where the water falls over it. That is not the site but a former Shinto prayer room.
Furokawa did bury stuff there but so far no one knows where, or maybe they do !?!?
It might be just under your feet.
1/3 plus ceramics plus the set of swords buried in water proof chest. It would cost approximate 85,000usd to extract.
Zobex
.......just kidding......Ok, if you really went to our place PM me the name of my father...... it may be a coincindece...now i remember there is small water, a knee deep square well (you said rock wall where the water falls over it?)...... it is near to that dry creek.....by the way, that dry creek full of big rocks was analize by that australian guy......and he said the Y shape of that dry creek means Yamashi-i-t-a....and he said that something is buried in the middle of that Y shape....but because for many years past, that Y shape move and it will be difficult to locate the real spot....few meters from that dry creek is the knee deep square well that im talking about...it has a mark at the bottom of that well..when you remove the water you can see...if i remember right a straight line engrave approximately 2"X20" and 2" deep.....near by, my brother dig for a small fish pond (when the water over flow, it goes there).....and there is a strange hard rocklike thing (may also be a cement material) just next to that knee deep square well (made of the same material).....if you use a hammer, it will bounce and it is so difficult to break......so when i was there 3 years ago.....i happen to know this american guy, a former TH and now doing medium scale cowboy style mining, his name is ron wilks....i have him check if those rocks like has gold (he crush it with his crusher and pan it)....and it does, it has small dust of gold....but he said its too small to do his kind of stuff (i didn't ask him about treasure stuff, because he hate it after having a bad experience in Treasure hunting).....what im saying is that, is this the rock/cement like wall you are talking about? but i dont see any tunnel in that place......let see you ESP Zorex....

.......just kidding......Ok, if you really went to our place PM me the name of my father...... it may be a coincindece...now i remember there is small water, a knee deep square well (you said rock wall where the water falls over it?)...... it is near to that dry creek.....by the way, that dry creek full of big rocks was analize by that australian guy......and he said the Y shape of that dry creek means Yamashi-i-t-a....and he said that something is buried in the middle of that Y shape....but because for many years past, that Y shape move and it will be difficult to locate the real spot....few meters from that dry creek is the knee deep square well that im talking about...it has a mark at the bottom of that well..when you remove the water you can see...if i remember right a straight line engrave approximately 2"X20" and 2" deep.....near by, my brother dig for a small fish pond (when the water over flow, it goes there).....and there is a strange hard rocklike thing (may also be a cement material) just next to that knee deep square well (made of the same material).....if you use a hammer, it will bounce and it is so difficult to break......so when i was there 3 years ago.....i happen to know this american guy, a former TH and now doing medium scale cowboy style mining, his name is ron wilks....i have him check if those rocks like has gold....and it does, it has small dust of gold....but he said its too small to do his kind of stuff (i didn't ask him about treasure stuff, because he hate it after having a bad experience in TH).....what im saying is that, is this the rock/cement wall you are talking about? but i dont see any tunnel in that place......let see you ESP Zorex....

krugger said:hi guys,
are u referring to general forokawa or the son of general forokawa? general forokawa is already dead. those japs treasure hunters who were looking the treasures buried by the late general were the son and the relatives of general furokawa. in 90's son of furokawa came somewhere in tagakpan looking for the house of his father, this guy asked my friend (who owned the lot now where the house of the late general where located) about the location of the house but my friend did not told the correct location instead he told this guy to come in thier house for a lunch. in their house my friend asked him directly, are u looking for the buried treasure of general forukawa? the japs replied him no no no. my fren and this japs became close friends coz this jap frequently visit this area and this is the reason why the 4 boxes and the 10 tonnes burried in one of the elementary principals office in the city of malaybalay was recovered. sad to knw that my fren did not received his share even a single gold bar. th located in malaybalay and cdo check this out guys to proved my story is true principal office in one of the elementary school in malaybalay that was fired by those greed th and then reconstructed in 90's. 6' under that bldg. 10 tonnes was buried, and the 4 boxes was buried under the stairs...
gpr our site has something in common maybe the japs who buried in your place were also the one who buried their looted treasure in my site.
krugger
krugger said:zobex,
maybe u r right, but my fren did not asked the son of general forukawa who buried the treasure what this japs wanted him to do is that after he recovered the 4 boxes that was buried under the stairs, the japs wanted him to package immediately to japan the box that will weight 50kgs without the gold bars infact the japs gave him 2000 for payment of the frieght and until now the 2000 pesos still in his hands because the greed ths who recovered the object did not even bothered to informed him about what happened in thier recoveries..
by the way zobex, thanks for ur suggestion about the chemicals to be used for breaking hard rocks.
krugger
.....but i am sick of this....i been doing TH for many years and it eats up my time, energy and money....and end up nothing.....(some end up being crazy).....look at some of those guys here....
....i dont know why im still here...hehe.
....but, i'll be back with revenge...
.....with my GPR and other stuff........i grow up in davao and all of our three properties has history and signs of japs treasure......not to mention other many sites that i know....Zobex, i can see that you already have treasures (you are the treasure).....your story....lets make a book and market it tru internet....wait for me i have someone to finance your book......look at this guy Bob Martin, he is earning around U.S. $10,000 more or less a month by just by posting his blogs and his e-commerce (selling his book tru internet). Look at hes sites:
......you haven't PM me yet.....
a GPR machine won't work here, it's too deep.
...just making fun of you.....well....Let see how great you are...lets make a book....file up your ducuments, pictures and other stuff.....what do you think Zobex?GPR said:Zobex
Te be honest Forokawa plantation/property is really wide and our property is just part of it. Im not 100 percent sure if that it is our property. I just hope it is. I almost believe you......But when you said a "GPR machine won't work", is it because you can see deeper than the GPR right? (that means i save thousand of dollars for that statement) haha....![]()
...just making fun of you.....well....Let see how great you are...lets make a book....file up your documents, pictures and other stuff.....what do you think Zobex?
GPR
.....(and they will make a book out of it)......anyhow...more expensive GPR can go 80 feet.... :P......i also prefer smaller items like few bars of gold....not those huge deposits....unless if it is just few feet deep......my life are more important than those huge truck loads of deposits that your after......beside im not going to be full time doing TH....this is just a hobby...right guys?......i am really glad you know the history.....thanks teacher Zobex... 
