About issues with Skeptics and MFD: Conclusion

[architecad]

Hi Fellows, users and newbie

Ladies and Gentlemen

Here I'm posting the conclusion of a series of threads where I've tested all Skeptics who participate in this forum for LRL and MFD's users. They (Skeptics) are here for one purpose; to mess around with us(users), bring confusion about thier knowledge and complete a full agenda/scheme against LRL and MFDs. Many of all those Skeptics are entrepreneurs, metal detectors dealers and rich people with large amount of money in Wall Street, banks and stock market where they see in "risk" their business in front those machine. We accept there has been fraud and scam but not all of them. All user here has been successful in the use of function generator, MFD and LRL. Fenix, Art and others are an example. However, we're receiving personal attack in a daily basic for those individual who pretend to be "expert in the field" but in a simple evaluation they didn't pass the text. So simple!! Here is the conclusion:



Evaluation #1: Electrical Engineering Capabilities

The reason of this test is to evaluate their basic knowledge because they spent time evaluating our LRL and MFD's machines.

Question test.......................................................6/30/11 - #79 Posted Yesterday at 06:34:31 PM Topic; http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,408867.0.html

OK Skeptic (To SWR)

If you're an electrical engineer answer this question;

List 3 basic code violation when you're design lighting, power and fire alarms for a commercial building. Just 3, one for lighting, one for power and one for fire alarms design.

I will give you 1 min. to answer


Arch


Answer; They never were able to answer the question.

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Evaluation #2: To accept the Carl's $25K challenge "if" they pay "first" my honorary of $10,000. plus expenses as [size=12pt]Professional Treasure Hunter.[/size]

Here is the challenge made by myself: http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,410129.0.html#lastPost

"Because you insist too much, I will accept to take the "Double blind test"

BUT

You have to pay the price: $10,000. in fee plus expenses IN ADVANCE. I you want that I move from where I'm just to play games with you in other state, you have to pay me $10,000. fee plus expenses (fly ticket, hotels, car rental, gas, food, beer, cash to pay dancers in a bar "go-go") etc. Fail or win the contest, I don't care."


Resume:

$10,000. plus expense win or fail the contest.

Do you accept?

Arch


Answer; They never accept to pay the honorary of $10,000 plus expenses. Even, Carl never responded this thread.

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Final conclusion

In this forum, like any PC or Laptop full of virus, spam and malicious malware, we're infected of some agents whom are dedicated to destroy our hobby as LRL and MFDs users. Those agents are "The Skeptics".Many of them suffer of "Mental disorders". Others have "personal agenda and scheme to accomplish in this forum". This topic let you know that those Skeptics are not educated as they said, they are not enjoying of good mental health and others are "Greed entrepreneurs" looking for to protect theirs business.

Final Thought: Protect yourself of those human virus of the century 21.


Note: Any respond post this conclusion with the purpose to answer the evaluation #1 or #2 won't be valid. Time over!

 

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[architecad]

Addendum

This is an example about requirement for those who say are 'Electrical Engineer'. This is a job post from Craiglist with its requirement to qualify. http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/egr/2472199771.html


Potomac Energy Group (PEG) Consulting Engineering in Falls Church (Merrifield area), VA is looking for an enthusiastic and motivated, entry-level Electrical Engineer with the following qualifications to join our team:

An electrical engineer who can design lighting, power distribution and fire alarm systems for buildings.


Required Qualifications:

-Bachelor of Science degree in Electrical Engineering (BSEE)
-One to Three (1-3) years of building electrical systems design experience
-Knowledge of National Electrical Code
-AutoCadd experience
-Great Communication Skills

Additional Preferred Qualifications:

-LEED AP or LEED experience
-Experience with commercial & institutional projects
-Revit experience

If you feel that you meet these requirements and are looking for an exciting career with a well established and respected company, please email your cover letter, resume, salary requirements and references to the email provided. If all of the information is not provided as requested, you will not be considered for the position(s).


This is an example of how an Electrical engineer is evaluated for principals.

Arch

 

[Saturna]

Another post looking for response from skeptics, despite placing same on Ignore (but laughably still clicking on Show Post to read their posts ), and claiming to want to just be here to get ideas, etc from fellow LRL fans.


You guys aren't even honest with yourselves.

 

[EE THr]

Archie---

The NEC (National Electrical Code) is for contractors. A contractors license is required to build or repair anything which is permanently attached to real estate, if you are doing it as a business. This would include buildings, and anything permanently attached to them. If you are doing it on your own property, you don't need a contractors license, but still need to comply with the building codes.

In other words, considering electrical equipment, if you install a coffee pot, it doesn't require a contractors license, because it is not a permanent fixture. Basically, it it plugs in, it doesn't require a license, but if it's hard wired in, it does.

Some electrical engineers specialize in electrical power plants, and other major electrical designs for industrial real estate, which would require adherence to the applicable building electrical codes, which generally refer to the NEC. That's why they specified it in that job listing that you posted.

Many electrical engineers, however, specialize in electronics, which are mostly plug-in or battery operated devices. Everything from wristwatches to computers, radios and TVs, and beyond. These do not require contractors licenses. There are, however, other safety regulations which apply to many electronics devices.

There is considered to be a big difference between "electrical" and "electronics."

However, none of this matters as to whether LRLs actually work or not. It is the "LRLs" and their circuitry that determine whether they work or not, not who it is that says it. Neither does it matter how many of these devices a person claims to own, or what results they claim to have with them.

The only thing that matters is if they work, or if they don't.

But if you demand the opinion of an unbiased credentialed professional, my offer still stands to send your schematics to either a college of your choice, or any other agreed upon "properly educated and knowledgable" person or organization, for evaluation.

Will you state who you would like to choose who to send it to?





ref: National Electrical Code.

 

[aarthrj3811]

http://www.careerplanner.com/Job-Descriptions/Electrical-Engineering-Technicians.cfm
Apply electrical theory and related knowledge to test and modify developmental or operational electrical machinery and electrical control equipment and circuitry in industrial or commercial plants and laboratories. Usually work under direction of engineering staff.
http://www.collegesurfing.com/content/electrical-engineer/
Duties of an electrical engineer
Electrical engineers may specialize in areas such as power systems, equipment manufacturing, or building design -- and their daily responsibilities vary accordingly. Overall, though, electrical engineers handle the development of lighting, wiring systems, electric motors, navigation systems, and utilities. Electrical engineers who focus on the field of electronics might design communications systems or develop new tech gadgets.
http://careers.stateuniversity.com/pages/397/Electrical-Electronics-Engineer.html
Definition and Nature of the Work
Electrical and electronics engineers are concerned with the production and use of electricity. They are members of the largest branch of engineering. The focus of electrical engineers is on the generation and supply of power, and the focus of electronics engineers is on applications of electricity to control systems or signal processing. Engineers use basic knowledge collected by scientists to solve a wide range of problems.
Electrical and electronics engineers generally specialize in one of the two branches of their profession—either electric power or electronics. Engineers specializing in electric power often are involved with the creation of electricity at generating stations. These generating stations primarily use steam or water power to drive their turbines and change mechanical energy into electricity. Steam-powered plants may use coal, gas, oil, nuclear, or solar energy for fuel. Electrical engineers working in the area of electric power also work with the equipment that transmits electricity from the power plant to the consumer. They are concerned with electric motors and with the lighting and wiring in buildings, automobiles, airplanes, and other places. These engineers generally work with relatively large amounts of electricity.
Engineers specializing in electronics deal with relatively small amounts of electricity. Electronics engineers work with a variety of equipment including radar, telephone systems, and missile guidance systems. They also work with consumer goods, such as televisions and stereo equipment.
In either branch of electrical and electronic engineering, engineers work in a wide range of jobs. Many work in research, development, and design. These engineers come up with the ideas and plans for new equipment and methods or for improvements in existing equipment and methods. Their work may result in a

 

[architecad]

Archie---

The NEC (National Electrical Code) is for contractors. A contractors license is required to build or repair anything which is permanently attached to real estate, if you are doing it as a business. This would include buildings, and anything permanently attached to them. If you are doing it on your own property, you don't need a contractors license, but still need to comply with the building codes.

In other words, considering electrical equipment, if you install a coffee pot, it doesn't require a contractors license, because it is not a permanent fixture. Basically, it it plugs in, it doesn't require a license, but if it's hard wired in, it does.

Some electrical engineers specialize in electrical power plants, and other major electrical designs for industrial real estate, which would require adherence to the applicable building electrical codes, which generally refer to the NEC. That's why they specified it in that job listing that you posted.

Many electrical engineers, however, specialize in electronics, which are mostly plug-in or battery operated devices. Everything from wristwatches to computers, radios and TVs, and beyond. These do not require contractors licenses. There are, however, other safety regulations which apply to many electronics devices.

There is considered to be a big difference between "electrical" and "electronics."

However, none of this matters as to whether LRLs actually work or not. It is the "LRLs" and their circuitry that determine whether they work or not, not who it is that says it. Neither does it matter how many of these devices a person claims to own, or what results they claim to have with them.

The only thing that matters is if they work, or if they don't.

But if you demand the opinion of an unbiased credentialed professional, my offer still stands to send your schematics to either a college of your choice, or any other agreed upon "properly educated and knowledgable" person or organization, for evaluation.

Will you state who you would like to choose who to send it to?





ref: National Electrical Code.

I said: "Note: Any respond post this conclusion with the purpose to answer the evaluation #1 or #2 won't be valid. Time over!"

Don't come to me to teach me or explain me about electrical engineering, NEC or copy/paste. The subject about NEC I worked with it for more than 15 years, one of them, the renovation of the Pentagon.

Arch.

 

[EE THr]

Archie---

The NEC (National Electrical Code) is for contractors. A contractors license is required to build or repair anything which is permanently attached to real estate, if you are doing it as a business. This would include buildings, and anything permanently attached to them. If you are doing it on your own property, you don't need a contractors license, but still need to comply with the building codes.

In other words, considering electrical equipment, if you install a coffee pot, it doesn't require a contractors license, because it is not a permanent fixture. Basically, it it plugs in, it doesn't require a license, but if it's hard wired in, it does.

Some electrical engineers specialize in electrical power plants, and other major electrical designs for industrial real estate, which would require adherence to the applicable building electrical codes, which generally refer to the NEC. That's why they specified it in that job listing that you posted.

Many electrical engineers, however, specialize in electronics, which are mostly plug-in or battery operated devices. Everything from wristwatches to computers, radios and TVs, and beyond. These do not require contractors licenses. There are, however, other safety regulations which apply to many electronics devices.

There is considered to be a big difference between "electrical" and "electronics."

However, none of this matters as to whether LRLs actually work or not. It is the "LRLs" and their circuitry that determine whether they work or not, not who it is that says it. Neither does it matter how many of these devices a person claims to own, or what results they claim to have with them.

The only thing that matters is if they work, or if they don't.

But if you demand the opinion of an unbiased credentialed professional, my offer still stands to send your schematics to either a college of your choice, or any other agreed upon "properly educated and knowledgable" person or organization, for evaluation.

Will you state who you would like to choose who to send it to?





ref: National Electrical Code.

I said: "Note: Any respond post this conclusion with the purpose to answer the evaluation #1 or #2 won't be valid. Time over!"

Don't come to me to teach me or explain me about electrical engineering, NEC or copy/paste. The subject about NEC I worked with it for more than 15 years, one of them, the renovation of the Pentagon.

Arch.

Archie---

Facts are facts. If you disagree with the rest of the World, that's your problem. But don't expect anyone to give you any credibility if you disagree with known facts.

 

[architecad]

Archie---

The NEC (National Electrical Code) is for contractors. A contractors license is required to build or repair anything which is permanently attached to real estate, if you are doing it as a business. This would include buildings, and anything permanently attached to them. If you are doing it on your own property, you don't need a contractors license, but still need to comply with the building codes.

In other words, considering electrical equipment, if you install a coffee pot, it doesn't require a contractors license, because it is not a permanent fixture. Basically, it it plugs in, it doesn't require a license, but if it's hard wired in, it does.

Some electrical engineers specialize in electrical power plants, and other major electrical designs for industrial real estate, which would require adherence to the applicable building electrical codes, which generally refer to the NEC. That's why they specified it in that job listing that you posted.

Many electrical engineers, however, specialize in electronics, which are mostly plug-in or battery operated devices. Everything from wristwatches to computers, radios and TVs, and beyond. These do not require contractors licenses. There are, however, other safety regulations which apply to many electronics devices.

There is considered to be a big difference between "electrical" and "electronics."

However, none of this matters as to whether LRLs actually work or not. It is the "LRLs" and their circuitry that determine whether they work or not, not who it is that says it. Neither does it matter how many of these devices a person claims to own, or what results they claim to have with them.

The only thing that matters is if they work, or if they don't.

But if you demand the opinion of an unbiased credentialed professional, my offer still stands to send your schematics to either a college of your choice, or any other agreed upon "properly educated and knowledgable" person or organization, for evaluation.

Will you state who you would like to choose who to send it to?





ref: National Electrical Code.

I said: "Note: Any respond post this conclusion with the purpose to answer the evaluation #1 or #2 won't be valid. Time over!"

Don't come to me to teach me or explain me about electrical engineering, NEC or copy/paste. The subject about NEC I worked with it for more than 15 years, one of them, the renovation of the Pentagon.

Arch.

Archie---

Facts are facts. If you disagree with the rest of the World, that's your problem. But don't expect anyone to give you any credibility if you disagree with known facts.

Again

Don't come to me to teach me or explain about NEC or electrical engineering. Because you don't agree with the use of the LRL or MFD, that doesn't mean we, the user, are not educated.

1. The World is not for Skeptics only. In this World there are user, believers, any kind of people; Whites, Blacks, Latinos, Chinese, etc. so I think you're out of focus. Who really is against the World is YOU.
2. It's total disgusting to respond a guy like you who pretend to know more than everybody here and treat user like homeless without education.
3. What I explained here in this topic are total FACTS.
4. Credibility: You're funny. I don't need credibility from somebody else to find gold.
5. About the NEC; The next time I ask a question about NEC or any technical question, please, don't take days to respond. I could think that you're looking for Online, you tube, Wikipedia or another source to respond to me. DON'T BE RIDICULOUS IN FRONT YOUR OWN PEOPLE, THE SKEPTICS.

Keep in focus and have a good day my little friend.

Arch

 

[EE THr]

Archie---

The NEC (National Electrical Code) is for contractors. A contractors license is required to build or repair anything which is permanently attached to real estate, if you are doing it as a business. This would include buildings, and anything permanently attached to them. If you are doing it on your own property, you don't need a contractors license, but still need to comply with the building codes.

In other words, considering electrical equipment, if you install a coffee pot, it doesn't require a contractors license, because it is not a permanent fixture. Basically, it it plugs in, it doesn't require a license, but if it's hard wired in, it does.

Some electrical engineers specialize in electrical power plants, and other major electrical designs for industrial real estate, which would require adherence to the applicable building electrical codes, which generally refer to the NEC. That's why they specified it in that job listing that you posted.

Many electrical engineers, however, specialize in electronics, which are mostly plug-in or battery operated devices. Everything from wristwatches to computers, radios and TVs, and beyond. These do not require contractors licenses. There are, however, other safety regulations which apply to many electronics devices.

There is considered to be a big difference between "electrical" and "electronics."

However, none of this matters as to whether LRLs actually work or not. It is the "LRLs" and their circuitry that determine whether they work or not, not who it is that says it. Neither does it matter how many of these devices a person claims to own, or what results they claim to have with them.

The only thing that matters is if they work, or if they don't.

But if you demand the opinion of an unbiased credentialed professional, my offer still stands to send your schematics to either a college of your choice, or any other agreed upon "properly educated and knowledgable" person or organization, for evaluation.

Will you state who you would like to choose who to send it to?





ref: National Electrical Code.

I said: "Note: Any respond post this conclusion with the purpose to answer the evaluation #1 or #2 won't be valid. Time over!"

Don't come to me to teach me or explain me about electrical engineering, NEC or copy/paste. The subject about NEC I worked with it for more than 15 years, one of them, the renovation of the Pentagon.

Arch.

Archie---

Facts are facts. If you disagree with the rest of the World, that's your problem. But don't expect anyone to give you any credibility if you disagree with known facts.

Again

Don't come to me to teach me or explain about NEC or electrical engineering. Because you don't agree with the use of the LRL or MFD, that doesn't mean we, the user, are not educated.

1. The World is not for Skeptics only. In this World there are user, believers, any kind of people; Whites, Blacks, Latinos, Chinese, etc. so I think you're out of focus. Who really is against the World is YOU.
2. It's total disgusting to respond a guy like you who pretend to know more than everybody here and treat user like homeless without education.
3. What I explained here in this topic are total FACTS.
4. Credibility: You're funny. I don't need credibility from somebody else to find gold.
5. About the NEC; The next time I ask a question about NEC or any technical question, please, don't take days to respond. I could think that you're looking for Online, you tube, Wikipedia or another source to respond to me. DON'T BE RIDICULOUS IN FRONT YOUR OWN PEOPLE, THE SKEPTICS.

Keep in focus and have a good day my little friend.

Arch

I showed that you were making erroneous claims about the NEC. I corrected you and provided a link reference. (By the way, you never posted that statute requiring electrical engineers to pass an NEC test, as you claimed.)

1. What people "believe," and what is Reality, can be two different things. But you are free to fantasize all you want. I like the World, I'm not against it at all, and I never said that I was.

2. Nope. I just ask questions when I read something that seems unreal. There is no harm in asking a few questions, is there? And when I discover contradicting facts, I post them, with reference links, just to be polite. Anybody can do that, even you.

3. Many of the things that you have claimed are unsubstantiated. But when you take Carl's test, as you have agreed to do, it will certainly clear things up for you.

4. My mention of credibility was directed toward your ability to convince others that your LRL devices actually work, because that's what most of your many posts continually claim.

5. I actually do other things than post on forums. I read and post here when I have the time, and feel like it. It's very interesting sometimes.

It's too bad that you expose your lack of reasoning and logical data, by throwing insults.

 

[fenixdigger]

It's really simple Sat. You ever walk in your bathroom and say,"what is that!!" and go look in the toilet? That's kind of what we are doing.

We smell something bad and look at the post. Most of the time I think, oh no not that ignorant crap again and wish I hadn't looked.

Such is human nature.

 

[aarthrj3811]

~SWR~

15 years? Only 15 years?

What a rookie ::tooey::: noob

Sorry about that..It looks like he has your number...Art

 

[EE THr]

If you're an electrical engineer answer this question;

List 3 basic code violation when you're design lighting, power and fire alarms for a commercial building. Just 3, one for lighting, one for power and one for fire alarms design.

I will give you 1 min. to answer

Arch

It appears that all of the nonsense about the NEC came about when Archie was browsing Craig's List, in Washington DC, looking for a job.

Check the similarity to the above---

Addendum

This is an example about requirement for those who say are 'Electrical Engineer'. This is a job post from Craiglist with its requirement to qualify. http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/egr/2472199771.html

Potomac Energy Group (PEG) Consulting Engineering in Falls Church (Merrifield area), VA is looking for an enthusiastic and motivated, entry-level Electrical Engineer with the following qualifications to join our team:

An electrical engineer who can design lighting, power distribution and fire alarm systems for buildings.


Required Qualifications:

-Bachelor of Science degree in Electrical Engineering (BSEE)
-One to Three (1-3) years of building electrical systems design experience
-Knowledge of National Electrical Code

....

Arch

He must have read the ad, and he figured it was all about that.


Oh well....

 

[architecad]

If you're an electrical engineer answer this question;

List 3 basic code violation when you're design lighting, power and fire alarms for a commercial building. Just 3, one for lighting, one for power and one for fire alarms design.

I will give you 1 min. to answer

Arch

It appears that all of the nonsense about the NEC came about when Archie was browsing Craig's List, in Washington DC, looking for a job.

Check the similarity to the above---

Addendum

This is an example about requirement for those who say are 'Electrical Engineer'. This is a job post from Craiglist with its requirement to qualify. http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/egr/2472199771.html

Potomac Energy Group (PEG) Consulting Engineering in Falls Church (Merrifield area), VA is looking for an enthusiastic and motivated, entry-level Electrical Engineer with the following qualifications to join our team:

An electrical engineer who can design lighting, power distribution and fire alarm systems for buildings.


Required Qualifications:

-Bachelor of Science degree in Electrical Engineering (BSEE)
-One to Three (1-3) years of building electrical systems design experience
-Knowledge of National Electrical Code

....

Arch

He must have read the ad, and he figured it was all about that.


Oh well....

You're so stupid!!

 

[EE THr]

Archie---

You seem to be repeating yourself in every post.

That's known as cross posting.

It's against the Terms of Use on this Website.

I'm guessing that you didn't know that.

Or are you violating the TOU on purpose?

 

[Saturna]

Looks like Arch only has two pictures to keep re-posting.

 

[fenixdigger]

Archie---

You seem to be repeating yourself in every post.

That's known as cross posting.

It's against the Terms of Use on this Website.

I'm guessing that you didn't know that.

Or are you violating the TOU on purpose?

This is priceless. Coming from the DOOF champ himself. Hoo boy. I wish Siggy could see this bunch. Trains for rent, crossing the bridge
over the river De nile

 

[EE THr]

Archie---

You seem to be repeating yourself in every post.

That's known as cross posting.

It's against the Terms of Use on this Website.

I'm guessing that you didn't know that.

Or are you violating the TOU on purpose?

This is priceless. Coming from the DOOF champ himself. Hoo boy. I wish Siggy could see this bunch. Trains for rent, crossing the bridge
over the river De nile

I don't see how you relate posting entirely the same post, on every thread, to me. I've never done that.

 

[pronghorn]

I don't see how you relate posting entirely the same post one every thread, to me. I've never done that.

EE THr, reconsider your assumption that
logic or common sense occupies even the minutest
fragment of the mind that believes calculators send out
magic treasure locating beams.

These LRL believers have long ago departed from
reality, and there is NO chance they will ever attempt to
make the return trip.

 

[aarthrj3811]

http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,295484.0.html
http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,393152.0.html
http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,393139.0.html

EE THr, reconsider your assumption that
logic or common sense occupies even the minutest
fragment of the mind that believes calculators send out
magic treasure locating beams.

These LRL believers have long ago departed from
reality, and there is NO chance they will ever attempt to
make the return trip.

Your statement about the calculator hs been proven to be wrong...Now who has their head in the sand?..Art

 

[EE THr]

http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,295484.0.html
http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,393152.0.html
http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,393139.0.html

EE THr, reconsider your assumption that
logic or common sense occupies even the minutest
fragment of the mind that believes calculators send out
magic treasure locating beams.

These LRL believers have long ago departed from
reality, and there is NO chance they will ever attempt to
make the return trip.

Your statement about the calculator hs been proven to be wrong...Now who has their head in the sand?..Art

Apparently your idea of "proof" is if you or another LRL promoter says so.

Show us the documentation of your so-called "proof," please.