Ancient coins ID

[Whatacoin]

Hello everyone! Not sure if I mentioned it in a previous post but I collect ancient coins. I recently got these 2 in a lot and for the life of me I can't figure out what they are. I though widow mite for a while due to the size but they don't appear to have any symbol of them. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

 

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[CRUSADER]

Well your first guess was close to mine.

All I can rule out for those helping is that it is NOT:
British
Greek
Roman

 

[Mackaydon]

Need more magnification and brightness, if possible.
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