Any Ideas? Solved ~ Victorian Era Type Brooch

[JimBeHuntin']

Dug this piece today from a site that dates from early 1800's thru the 1940's. Once was a plantation home site and in later years a tenant house/rental house before being torn down in the 1940's. The piece is small and could possibly be some type of pin or broach (it appears to have a piece where a pin may have attached). Unfortunately it has been bent up from the plow and I'm not sure what the original shape may have been. Anyway ... I thought it would be worth while to post it here and let the very knowledgeable folks that view this forum offer up some opinions on it. Thanks for looking and any comments you have!

 

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[mrs.oroblanco]

Re: Any Ideas?

Any writing on it?

A bird leg band?


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[Woodland Detectors]

Re: Any Ideas?

Jim. I'm not sure but, possibly from a mug or something.

You are in the thick of CW advancements there I envy you.

 

[johnnyi]

Re: Any Ideas?

Jim, if that lump on the back is part of the hinge to a clasp or keeper this may be a straight victorian bar pin which was bent out of shape (backwards)

 

[JimBeHuntin']

Re: Any Ideas?

Any writing on it?

A bird leg band?


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Thanks for the reply mrs. oroblanco ... there is no writing on it that I can see, it does have several depressions in it where stones may have been inset? It seems a bit heavy for a bird leg band.

 

[JimBeHuntin']

Re: Any Ideas?

Jim. I'm not sure but, possibly from a mug or something.

You are in the thick of CW advancements there I envy you.

Thanks for the reply 4H!

 

[JimBeHuntin']

Re: Any Ideas?

Jim, if that lump on the back is part of the hinge to a clasp or keeper this may be a straight victorian broach which was bent out of shape (backwards)

Thanks for the reply johnnyi ... I believe that the lump you refer to was probably part of a hinge/clasp and the 5 small depressions may have once held inset stones. I also believe as you that the plow bent this piece backwards. I was not aware of what time period this piece may have come from but Victorian seems appropriate.

 

[jeff of pa]

Re: Any Ideas?

it's a squashed Ring. :P

stones go in the holes

Maybe even an Old Mothers Ring

 

[jeff of pa]

Re: Any Ideas?

it's a squashed Ring. :P

stones go in the holes

Maybe even an Old Mothers Ring

I take that Back I read too Fast on the Pin attachment.

Brooch

 

[johnnyi]

Re: Any Ideas?

Jim, if that lump on the back is part of the hinge to a clasp or keeper this may be a straight victorian broach which was bent out of shape (backwards)

Thanks for the reply johnnyi ... I believe that the lump you refer to was probably part of a hinge/clasp and the 5 small depressions may have once held inset stones. I also believe as you that the plow bent this piece backwards. I was not aware of what time period this piece may have come from but Victorian seems appropriate.

Your welcome Jim, but I may have spoken too soon when I suggested Victorian. Although most bar pins we see are Victorian, it could very well be older. it will probably depend on what the clasp looks like once you have the time to clean it.

 

[JimBeHuntin']

Re: Any Ideas?

After a closer look at the piece along with johnnyi's thoughts and finding a photo of a similar shaped Victorian sentimental brooch ( http://www.antiquesavenue.co.uk/mizpah-brooch-antique-victorian-silver-hm-chester-1898-3217-p.asp )... I think we can mark this item as solved.

it's a squashed Ring. :P

stones go in the holes

Maybe even an Old Mothers Ring

I take that Back I read too Fast on the Pin attachment.

Brooch

Thanks for the reply Jeff ... I agree with your thoughts!

Your welcome Jim, but I may have spoken too soon when I suggested Victorian. Although most bar pins we see are Victorian, it could very well be older. it will probably depend on what the clasp looks like once you have the time to clean it.

Thanks again Johnnyi ... the design of this piece certainly resembles Victorian style sentimental brooches and the clasp appears to have been a hinged pin type.