Anybody else see a pattern here?

[Infowarrior]

Just seeing if my fellow coin roll hunters have any input here...

Im having a hard time trying to type the words that are in my head about this subject, so bear with me a second.

Silver and gold spot prices are dropping hard and the drops seem to be politically motivated, and carried out by the media, and other govt agencies(note, the media should not be controlled by the govt, but it is) to hide this from the general public.

Ok so 2 years ago, you have silver steadily going up and up and up until it almost hits 50$ an ounce... Then at the end of april, you have Barrack Hussein Obama release his fake birth certificate a week before, which the information goes viral within the alternate media... Any simple joe is able to break down that birth certificate within adobe, and see it has multiple digital layers, total fake etc etc... Then right after this, they announce "bin laden is dead". The most wanted man for a whole decade, they "kill him"(in a house). Then they dump his body in the ocean, with no evidence... And america rejoices. And everybody forgets this... Im sure you did.

Right as all of that is happening, silver plummets from nearly 50$ an ounce, to 30-32 range, where it practically sat for the next 2 years until the past month.

Which brings me to the next point, this latest silver crash, happens over the weekend. But first thing in the week. Fear grips the whole country as 2 bombs go off at a marathon, you have the media conditioning people that ITS OK to shut down 27 city blocks, and go door to door with "tactical teams" searching every house, looking for 1(ONE) Guy?!?!? That is basically martial law if you dont know. Then you also have the waco explosion going on to distract people even more about the dropped silver/gold prices...

So does anybody else see any pattern here, PM prices change drastically, but the next day or 2, some huge "event" happens, and that is all the media can talk about, its all anybody is being fed the information about. Its just a huge distraction technique, to keep us all in a state of fear... and everybody quickly forgets what happened just a few days ago... we are all being brainwashed by the media. I mean seriously, did you ever think about the fact that bin laden was the most wanted man in the world for 10 years, they finally find him, take him out, but just dump his body in the ocean, and not parade it around like they did when they killed Saddam or Gadaffi on national television. Did you know both of them wanted to STOP trading their oil for US DOLLARS, they wanted GOLD for their OIL. But we send the world a message about our US dollar, you take it, or end up like them. . I mean come on, you cant put 2+2 together? Think for yourselves people, stop letting the media do it for you.

Ok rant over, Back to searching some boxes of halves for silver...

HH all

 

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Just seeing if my fellow coin roll hunters have any input here...

Im having a hard time trying to type the words that are in my head about this subject, so bear with me a second.

Silver and gold spot prices are dropping hard and the drops seem to be politically motivated, and carried out by the media, and other govt agencies(note, the media should not be controlled by the govt, but it is) to hide this from the general public.

Ok so 2 years ago, you have silver steadily going up and up and up until it almost hits 50$ an ounce... Then at the end of april, you have Barrack Hussein Obama release his fake birth certificate a week before, which the information goes viral within the alternate media... Any simple joe is able to break down that birth certificate within adobe, and see it has multiple digital layers, total fake etc etc... Then right after this, they announce "bin laden is dead". The most wanted man for a whole decade, they "kill him"(in a house). Then they dump his body in the ocean, with no evidence... And america rejoices. And everybody forgets this... Im sure you did.

Right as all of that is happening, silver plummets from nearly 50$ an ounce, to 30-32 range, where it practically sat for the next 2 years until the past month.

Which brings me to the next point, this latest silver crash, happens over the weekend. But first thing in the week. Fear grips the whole country as 2 bombs go off at a marathon, you have the media conditioning people that ITS OK to shut down 27 city blocks, and go door to door with "tactical teams" searching every house, looking for 1(ONE) Guy?!?!? That is basically martial law if you dont know. Then you also have the waco explosion going on to distract people even more about the dropped silver/gold prices...

So does anybody else see any pattern here, PM prices change drastically, but the next day or 2, some huge "event" happens, and that is all the media can talk about, its all anybody is being fed the information about. Its just a huge distraction technique, to keep us all in a state of fear... and everybody quickly forgets what happened just a few days ago... we are all being brainwashed by the media. I mean seriously, did you ever think about the fact that bin laden was the most wanted man in the world for 10 years, they finally find him, take him out, but just dump his body in the ocean, and not parade it around like they did when they killed saddam(which is another question... why saddam or why even iraq after 911) I mean come on, you cant put 2+2 together?

Ok rant over, Back to searching some boxes of halves for silver...

HH all

I actually have a different view point on how the pm prices are moving:

Gold/Silver was really high while Europe's economy was completely falling apart and while the U.S. was still in the middle of the recession.

Now I see gold/silver dropping since the stock market is booming and a lot of the sideline money is going back into stocks. The stock market is artificially high due to the artificially inexpensive borrowing conditions that are propped up by the treasury purchases. Once the bond bubble unravels we will see the pm prices shoot back up as everyone takes a bath on their recent stock purchases.

That's just my opinion, but I don't think the non-debt related political picture is having much of an impact on pm prices.

 

[Iamrussell]

Yep false flags to eventually take away every freedom and liberty we once knew- but way too many are blinded by and trust everything the media is putting out there-
As far as the correlation with the prices of PM the only thing I can come up with as far as the plummeting prices is that they want more people to get their hands on it so that they can then come in and take it all from us-

 

[occy]

Look up what was announced on Sept. 10th 2001.

 

[drcaulfield]

Lol this is funny. PM prices are dropping because consumer confidence among average people who don't hunt coins or invest in precious metals are putting their money back in the stock market. The stock market is rising and people are making money. Perhaps ever consider that the big bump in pm prices was falsely created in a panic supply and demand type of thing. Also people are not out buying gold and fewer are having to sell their grandmothers jewelry to try to make ends meet. The job reports show decreasing unemployment and stocks are hitting record highs that bolsters consumer confidence. Hence a decrease in pm prices because less people feel the need to hoard them and lots are selling now for still more than they paid.

 

[jambone]

I think that some of the decline is due to Cyprus (and potentially Greece, Portugal, and Italy) selling some of their gold to pay off debts. Not saying that's the only factor.

 

[drcaulfield]

I think that some of the decline is due to Cyprus (and potentially Greece, Portugal, and Italy) selling some of their gold to pay off debts. Not saying that's the only factor.

Agree this is part of it

 

[GarouLady]

If cypus sold some of its gold that would put more physical gold into the market and the supply/demand ratio would only cause gold to go down in price, not silver and copper. But I have been watching stocks and PMs for almost 10 years and silver was down around 32 couple of years ago, then it jackknifed up to 50 dollars an ounce for just one day and the next day it went back down to 32 an ounce. But I did notice how every time something bad happens PM and the stock market goes wonky. I also checked my 401K plan and saw that I lost like 10,000 dollars. Don't know where or when but I plan on checking that out fast. I wanted to put some of that money into physical silver stock, or something similiar.

sincerely, GarouLady

 

[Gold Maven]

Don't even start with the 9-11 attack, the official story is full of so many lies it's pathetic.

bin laden was not even a suspect according to the FBI. No evidence that he was involved at all.

 

[mr.landpirate]

Socialism[liberalism] dosen't work, everytime you push on the economic string and try to cause and out come you allway have unintended results. You can't make everything "fair" life isn't "fair" if we'd get back to a free market, cut gov by 1/2, and let the people spend there own dang money things would inprove in a hurry. As for the media, it's all smoke an mirrors to cover goverments backside, there in bed together to grab all the power they can. My 50 cents thats now worth 2. LP

 

[1more4me]

Nope- no conspiracys here... People, markets, and countries are adapting to change- as best and as fast as they can. The problem is information is available too quickly, from too far away, and we all try in vain to react immediately. PMs just like non-p metals are traded globally. And all metals, in generall, move togeather. The markets try to act on the first 30 minutes to a "news" report from China that Industrial output is slowing... Really- Slowing means literally that a barely accurate report on a 3 month period- 6 months ago showed a .5% drop. And the marketeers try to make money on that news. You and I should NOT react on a metal price move until we can see a 6 month trend in Copper surplus on the CMX or LME stockpiles increasing at a rate faster than the whole rest of the world can use them. Let real signals identify a direction, not a day to day movement or news bullet. Fact of the matter is- easy metals are mined first and over time they will continue to get harder to mine, less available, and more expensive---regardless of this week impending peril, and next months doom. Get more on bad market days- or watch longer trends to get more on bad market months.
Why fear the future- yesterday doesn't still scare you does it...
PEACE and GREEN TRADES!

 

[sack0silver]

derka derrrr!

 

[silas1128]

Don't even start with the 9-11 attack, the official story is full of so many lies it's pathetic.

bin laden was not even a suspect according to the FBI. No evidence that he was involved at all.

Oh dear god, don't tell me you watched some documentary on Netflix and now think the whole thing was an inside job or some horse ****...

 

[baddbluff]

I think silver & gold are dropping because people are starting to pull their head out and realize that it's just WAY OVERPRICED. Just like they did in the early 80s. Just like they did in the 90s when they realized that NBA Hoops basketball cards were made by the millions an aren't worth the cardboard they were printed on. Just like they did when they realized that their hoard of Beanie Babies was just a bunch of cheap Chinese-sewn shat.
Don't get me wrong, I WANT it to go back up, just like all of you. I've got a pretty decent stack that I'd live to unload it and buy something truly rare and valuable. It just doesn't make sense that an ounce of silver could be worth $4 an ounce when I graduated high school and now somehow it's should be worth $50.

 

[foiler]

The only reason to be concerned over currant spot prices is if you are selling your finds today. If your in the gathering, collecting, hording mode then why are you stressing. Today's price is of no value. The logical trend for precious metals will be up. The supply is below the demand. Do not forget that the demand is measured in number of human beings on the planet (6.1 billion) is increasing faster than the ability to supply the product. Again, the value trend logically will be upward regardless of incidental political or other artificial manipulations.

 

[323GTX]

C17-H19-ClN2-S

 

[Joe777Cool]

I think you need to get a part-time job or a 2nd hobby becuase you have way too much time on your hands.

All these conspiracy throries have one vital flaw, they assume that the government is competent enough to pull one off.

Random events are random, why try to connect the dots?

 

[Infowarrior]

Sorry, been away tryin to find silver today...

I care about the truth, and try to form my own conclusions before taking anything the media says as truth. It is usually the farthest from the truth.

Its easy to dismiss "documentaries on netflix" if you dont have an open mind, and only trust what is force fed into your brain by the TV. We are all bred to think this way, to easily dismiss people as crazy, without even caring to look up the facts for yourself... It is subliminal bigotry...

I also was not saying that those events(boston bombing/bin laden) are the cause of the PM drops, just pointing out how they shove this stuff down our throats to forget what just happened 2 days ago, and only focus on today. Its a masking effect.

But also, like was mentioned above... What was announced on 9/10/01? Well Rumsfeld announced that they "lost" 2.3 TRILLION dollars. And never brought up again, because what happened the next day? Oh right...

You are correct 9/11 is a whole different thread, one which I will try to avoid getting on that subject...

 

[Infowarrior]

It doesnt have to be the entire govt, but a small faction within it.

I dont remember throwing out any conspiracy theories though. Only what has happened.

Please tell me where the theories are, or what I have wrong? Please.

Using your brain is the most freedom you can have, compared to a "job" which is in essence paid slavery... And I like freedom, maybe not everybody does.

I think you need to get a part-time job or a 2nd hobby becuase you have way too much time on your hands.

All these conspiracy throries have one vital flaw, they assume that the government is competent enough to pull one off.

Random events are random, why try to connect the dots?

 

[jambone]

If cypus sold some of its gold that would put more physical gold into the market and the supply/demand ratio would only cause gold to go down in price, not silver and copper. <snip>
sincerely, GarouLady

That's a fair point, and taken in a vacuum I would agree. When the price of gold moves, silver and other PMs tend to move in the same direction (perhaps with a lag), almost sympathetically. There is more than 1 reason for the decline we are seeing. As drcaulfield pointed out above, consumer confidence is rising, thus people are moving more money into stocks and out of PMs (a traditional hedge). That means that PMs are hitting the market from consumers as well, increasing the supply and decreasing the demand.

It will be interesting to see how PMs react if/when there is a market correction in the near future.