Arrowhead in PA

[Ryan6060]

I posted this in Native American board as well- I wanted to post it here to get more info on its age, type, value etc.

This arrowhead was found along the banks of a creek in Central PA. It is about 3 inches long and still razor sharp!

Thanks for any info!

 

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[piratesgold]

Is this metal? What type? How do you detect this if it's not metal??

Sweet find however you did it,
Lucky

 

[wildcatman71]

great find!!!

 

[artorius]

That is one super find. I have never found a perfect point as large as that, and I actually walk fields looking for them.

Looks like an Otter Creek point, BTW. Those date in the mid-late Archaic range (circa 4000-2000 BC).

artorius

 

[Colonial Copper Zeus]

Hey Ryan, How's the pinpointer holding up? I also found an arrowhead. It was my best find from last week. Here it is.
Chris

 

[atkhunter]

Nice job. I'm still hoping I'll come across one of those.

 

[Ryan6060]

Hi Chris. Have not had a chance to get out yet this year. I am planning on walking the creek where this arrowhead was found, and I think at the end of the month I will have some time to get out with the detector. Pinpointer saved me a huge amount of time last year and I'm looking forward to getting out again with it!

Thats a nice looking arrowhead you found as well! Hope I find a couple.

 

[jeff741972]

Nice point!!!
I would say its a brewerton side notch, the bottom of the base should be ground smoother than the points sides, late archaic era. There should be more in that creek, good luck!! The otter creek has a more squared off base, but they would also be found in our state.

 

[artorius]

Arrowhead in PA - Brewerton or Otter Creek?

Based on what I see in the photo, I still would vote for the point being an Otter Creek-like point. As far as I can tell from the photo, the base looks to me to be quite heavily ground, and while Otter Creeks often have more squared bases, I have seen a number of points - and photos of points - with bases like this which were classified as Otter Creeks.

I found a nice Rhyolite point in North-Central Pennsylvania a couple of years ago (found it in February, on a 15 degree day with a whipping wind) that looks very much like Ryan's point, only smaller (about 1 and 3/4" long). The base is heavily ground. I showed it to Gary Fogelman, who agreed that it was an Otter Creek- like point.

If I am misreading the photo, and the base is not heavily ground (smoothed on the edges), then I would go with a Brewerton point.

For precision's sake, it should be noted that the classic Otter Creek point is a very large point whose type site, I believe, is in upstate New York or Vermont.
The smaller points of this description found regularly in Pennsylvania might best be referred to as "Otter Creek-like" points. This is how Fogelman classifies them in his Typology book.

Brewerton and Otter Creek-like points are roughly the same age and often are found together. Whichever it is, Ryan has made a home run find.

artorius

 

[Ryan6060]

What would the value of something like this be? Not for sale or anything, but just curious! I went over Sunday and walked the creek this was found beside...found nothing of interest.

Waiting for a nice rain and then I'll go back.

Thanks for all the replies!

 

[jeff741972]

Dont get me started about Fogelman, thats another story for another day.

A point like that depends on the buyer you can find, at the most 50$ would be someone who just had to have it, on ebay it may get around 20 or 30 unless the fella with 50$ burning a hole in his pocket sees it.

You could get ahold of Fogelmans book on typeology for the northeast, or the overstreet arrowheads guide. Oh yeah, brewertons have grinding to, I looked at the droop of the ears to type it as a brewerton.

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

Price would depend on what a buyer is willing to pay, IMO jeff741972 is pretty much on the mark, average $20 to $30. Some buyers wouldn't give much more then $10 and a few might go over $30.

Unless there are a lot of buyers in your area, EBay would be best bet if you wanted to sell it. Set a min if you want, you will see what the value is then....

 

[allen]

way to go on that good looking find...