I am going to quit posting on treasurenet for the same reason I did back in 2003 and 2004 because it doesn't pay to make a honest post because the so called experts with out reading the post jumps in to hear their self crow. A little of my back ground, I have been a Master Dowser Instructor since the early 60's and in the 80's I started using LRL as part of my tool's for cache hunting. Anybody with any sence that uses any type of hand held tool with a ant looking for a signal line is dowsing. Just to let you know at 5:55 PM in Michigan yesterday dowsing with a LRL signal lines were great.