I'll go with what you go with!! Tx. BTW, I have to say plopping all of these puppies together to re-find after you ID, is not as easy as I thot. BUT sometimes I find myself looking at the batch and my eyes get drawn to a few instantly as possibilities so I think it is helping. Maybe not in the true sense of ID'ing....(i.e actually naming a maker), but certainly in terms of looking at the traits in a broad sense. Also, at first I was erring on the side of putting ones you were on the fence on in the more likely box. I decided, instead, to put them in the more unlikely box (i.e. like your 2nd & 5th ID's above). That might be another way for me to learn if, at some point, I get better at swirls (another mmm hmmm)!