BRASS tip for ?????

[Burdie]

This brass object is 3.5 inches long and 3/4 diameter. One end is capped. Looks warn smooth with dents. Inside of this brass object I found oak wood. I had to dig it out. I found this near the area of the US rosset I found. Any Ideas apprecieated.

 

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[stoney56]

Stan, 1st impression is a muzzleloader ramrod tip. Wood inside and concave tip which to help seat a round ball. Maybe a pumkin ball in a 12 ga. bp shotgun or a smoothbore Brown Bess flintlock?

 

[DigEmAll]

BINGO...

I also think that it is a ramrod end.

 

[Burdie]

Having never seen a real 19th century ramrod tip I would not dispute the idea. I was thinking on the lines of the bottom of a flag pole. The ones the calvery carried with them. The problem with this is I have never seen one to know if it could be one. I am trying to find one on the internet. The capped end is slightly worn more on one side than the other.
I may be way off base but I have been that way all my life. So thats no big deal. Thanks for responding my friends.

 

[SHERMANVILLE ILLINOIS]

Burdie,

interesting item.

3/4 inch diameter would be one large ramrod, but could be.

have a good un................

 

[Gypsy Heart]

Burdie,
Is it threaded on the inside?

 

[Gypsy Heart]

Could it be the tip for a cane?

 

[Burdie]

No GH, It is smooth. Not like the smoothness of the outside. The outside is like something soft rubbing metal till the metal is smooth. If that makes since. The walls are 1/8 th. thick.

 

[Burdie]

I don't know on the cane except it is 3 1/2 in length.

 

[Gypsy Heart]

.....see why I thought cane....metal tips on end...the reason I asked if it was threaded was to try and eliminate ramrod theory....

 

[Burdie]

I certainly didn't realize that canes had tips that long. Now that makes since why one side being worn more than the other. The curve on the other end would cause the cane to make contact on that one side first. WTG GH !!
I still wonder about the outside finish on the brass.

 

[DigEmAll]

3/4 inch would be a perfect size for a 12 GA shotgun which has a 7/8 inch bore. I would think that a cane tip would be a bit more solid and thicker. But hey, what do I know? I have never used a cane.

 

[stoney56]

Try this. Size depends on caliber. BTW, not all tips were threaded. There's two sides to a ramrod. One side was used to finish seating the ball. The other end may have had a threaded end to insert a worm screw to pull a ball back out or to insert a worm patch for removing the patching material between the ball and powder as well as to loosen any packed powder for removal.
http://www.castbullet.com/makeit/rod.htm

 

[Gypsy Heart]

Stoney,
Are all ramrods threaded?

 

[stoney56]

No. I had a CVA rifle that had no threads on the cupped end. The other end had a place to screw in either a ball puller or a patch puller. The later ramrods made today are a lot of times made of fiberglass as wooden ones have a nasty habit of breaking along the wood grain. I've got a nasty scar along my wrist from one such incident.

 

[SHERMANVILLE ILLINOIS]

Stoney,

OUCH!

That hurt.

have a good un............

 

[Southcacalaky]

Sorry, don't know, Keep us posted please, Art...

 

[beeper]

It appears to be more of copper than brass, and being a tip of a cane probably not, copper much to soft, ram rod hmmmm, maybe as copper is soft enough not to damage the bore. soooooo?

 

[Rmeav8r]

Very nice! It looks like the right size and material to fit the bottom of a military guidon staff, however most were pointed on the bottom so that they could be stuck into the ground. I could be a guidon staff used in ceremonies and carried in a belt holder which is why it is rounded and made of soft brass. An infantry or even a calvery unit would have had several guidons such as a company or troop guidon, the U.S. flag and even state flags. I don't know.....maybe? HH!

 

[Burdie]

Thanks everone for your replys. This is the best forum on the net.