✅ SOLVED Bullet id # 4 and 5

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I noticed the rings on these slugs and I didn't know if that was any indication of age, I saw in another post that the deep concave base on the second slug meant it came from a muzzle loader. does anybody recognize these slugs, how old are they and what gun might they have came from?
 

You'll need calipers to get precise measurements. The rings are crimp rings that held it in the casing.
 

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I wish I had some a ruler was the best I could do. so am I correct in understanding that more modern bullets also have rings and that they aren't from the minne ball family/era? I thought with the deep base of the one it might be 1870 -1890's maybe and the other I found with several other things probably dating to late 1800's 1 haybail.webp
 

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Modern lead bullets have rings and hollow bases as well. Still very popular with target shooters.

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And there are modern versions of Civil War muzzle loading and breech loading rifles and bullets used by target shooters and hunters.
 

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got it thanks I was hoping I could use them as a way to tell age but i guess ill just put them with the other slugs, still fun to see what my family and friends have been shooting for the last 130 years
 

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