Bullet Information

[JARMAN]

Found this bullet this weekend and would like some info, on cal, and age,is it old? Thanks for looking

 

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[rck_1]

JARMAN,
From the marks that are inside the rings I would say it is a modern shotgun slug. keep in mind, Modern could be 50 yrs.

Nice find BTW.

 

[tammahawk]

JARMAN,
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? From the marks that are inside the rings I would say it is a modern shotgun slug. keep in mind, Modern could be 50 yrs.

Nice find BTW.

its not a shotgun slug unless its? a modern sabot, if its real old i would say blackpowder conicle slug, but then again if you look you will see rifling grooves on the sides of the bullet from the barrel which excludes the sabot theory because the sabot jacket would have protected the slug during firing,the 2 rings around the bullet leave me a little baffled because they look like crimp marks from a brass jacket on the bullet, but it cant be because the rifling is showing in the lead and not on the jacket which makes me believe maybee there mold marks from being cast, which would mean there is no sabot jacket and there is no brass jacket, so my guess would? be and 45 or 50 cal bullet fired from a black powder rifle, or the rifling went thru brass jacket and its a large caliber hand gun slug or short range rifle slug, note also bullet is fat and short, was not made for distance,now that i look at it again it was a brass jacketed bullet you can tell by the color of the bullet from the bottom to the point where it curves is discolored or a diiferent color, because the jacket was on the slug keeping the oxidation different than the exposed lead, giving that appearance of 2 colors or shades, so once again i correct my self and i would say a very large handgun bullet 45 0r 50 cal tammahawk

 

[WriterofWords]

Very similar to the grooved bullets sold by mail order through Montgomery Wards in about 1894. Unfortunately my book on ammunition is on loan, but it's something to look into!

 

[JARMAN]

Thanks guy,s for the response.I have no clue when it comes to bullets, but was told by a freind it looked to be black powder. Hawk, I found it at abought 8 in,down in a gravel dirt mix and thought the side marks could have come from the gravel.The site is olmost right up town and the last house on it was turn of the century.Have found 1800,s and turn of the century shotgun brass on site as well.Thats why I was on the age,I could not see someone fireing off such a round in this area of town in the last 50 plus years or so,but that might be dum thinking to.Thanks again.

 

[junkdigger]

I'm guessing that bullet was fired from a .45Colt revolver.The knurled grooves were to hold lube (grease).They wouldn't hold enough lube for a long rifle barrel.But they would hold enough for a revolver barrel.Also I measured the dime and bullet diameter on my screen,then got out the calculator,and figured the bullet diameter to be about .454".That would be right for a .45Colt.The rifling marks seem to be made by a barrel with a left hand twist.I think left hand twist barrels are unique to Colt firearms.But people tell me I am wrong most of the time.And they like to proove it to me on a regular basis.I am learning by it,HaHa!

 

[cwbullet]

This is definitely modern.

 

[stoney56]

I'd say it's a cast lead round nose 44 Spec or 45 Long Colt. Theres not enough oxidation to be real old. The grooves did both-hold grease and crimped the bullet in case.

 

[nutso]

I found almost the same bullet. Mine measures .451 x .700. It also has grooves but to the right and it does not have the rings. It is sold lead with red coloring like it went through something red colored. But it's shape is perfect.

 

[stoney56]

Colt and a few others have left hand twist, S&W and Taurus have right-hand twist. Boy what you can't learn from watching CSI. LOL

 

[JARMAN]

That's one cool show Stoney.