Celtic Bronze figure

[nashwen]

I thought I'd share the recent find I made at a cave on the Gower peninsular, it appears to be of late Iron age to early Roman
I'm told that its likely to be lunar deity of Celtic tradition.

I'd be grateful to find out more if anyone has any information on anything similar

 

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[thrifty76now]

Holy cow,that is an amazing find indeed.

 

[trapperart]

No help with information, but congrats on the find

 

[Dave N Japan]

Maybe touch bases with a Archaeologist if you Dare,,,Congrats

 

[Gridwalker306]

That's an incredible find, and I think it should be reported. Being found in a cave, maybe there are more artifacts and important information to be found.

Again, wow!

 

[Tradertom]

A really special find. Probably should be in a museum.
Congratulations!!

 

[CRUSADER]

Very nice find, different from the Celtic statues found over here, but I do agree your ID seems spot on to me. Doesn't look Roman.

 

[CASPER-2]

 

[nashwen]

Yes it is currently with a local museum who are in the process of assessing it.

I think ultimately it will will end up staying with the museum with or without my agreement

apparently it will be assessed under treasure trove

does anyone have any experience in dealing with this if so I'd appreciate any advise you may have

thanks

 

[Gaspipe]

Fantastic find . If they keep it despite the fact you found it I would insist you be given a a duplicate of it at the least . This is a classic example of a find ; if genuine should be a banner but just is not recognized by most . Great find

 

[Professor of Engineering]

Congratulations on the possible significant find!

 

[nashwen]

Fantastic find . If they keep it despite the fact you found it I would insist you be given a a duplicate of it at the least . This is a classic example of a find ; if genuine should be a banner but just is not recognized by most . Great find

Good idea, it would be nice to be able to keep a duplicate. The museum have already had an artist sketch the figure, I'll attach a copy once I have it uploaded

 

[49r Relics]

That's a banner vote from me! Congrats on a find of a lifetime ;-)

 

[nashwen]

Here's a close up photo of the head and some human remains found at the same time (all correctly reported)

 

[CRUSADER]

Yes it is currently with a local museum who are in the process of assessing it.

I think ultimately it will will end up staying with the museum with or without my agreement

apparently it will be assessed under treasure trove

does anyone have any experience in dealing with this if so I'd appreciate any advise you may have

thanks

Lots of experience.
It can't be assessed on the Treasure Act because it doesn't fall under its terms. Unless South Wales has different Laws than the rest of the UK? (First question, & I'm assuming not)

When I first saw it, you never had the UK flag on your post, so being such an unusual statue, I assumed European (Which it still could be in origin)
I assume you had permission from the landowner? If so, they have rights on the object, unless you agreed what happens to them. This can be done retrospectively.
If its Govt. land then they maybe have rights to claim it.

 

[against the wind]

That is an incredible find. Once the museum authenticates and identifies it as a Pagan Statue, please post it. I have a feeling that the Museum will make an monetary offer to you or the land owner. They probably won't be returning it. Keep us posted and once you have "A Letter of Authenticity " , I would definitely vote for a banner.

 

[CRUSADER]

That is an incredible find. Once the museum authenticates and identifies it as a Pagan Statue, please post it. I have a feeling that the Museum will make an monetary offer to you or the land owner. They probably won't be returning it. Keep us posted and once you have "A Letter of Authenticity " , I would definitely vote for a banner.

Generally nowadays Museums don't make many monetary offers outside of the Treasure Act process, & we have yet to establish what grounds they have to keep hold of it at all.
The landownership question will help my response in establishing Legal Rights.

 

[nashwen]

Lots of experience.
It can't be assessed on the Treasure Act because it doesn't fall under its terms. Unless South Wales has different Laws than the rest of the UK? (First question, & I'm assuming not)

When I first saw it, you never had the UK flag on your post, so being such an unusual statue, I assumed European (Which it still could be in origin)
I assume you had permission from the landowner? If so, they have rights on the object, unless you agreed what happens to them. This can be done retrospectively.
If its Govt. land then they maybe have rights to claim it.

Hi Crusader
I don't know much about the treasure act, but do know that there would be no different law in South Wales. Yes, landowner will have a say and they are aware.

Just updated my profile a bit "with the flag" I've been dormant for too long on this board.

There were a lot of finds here early in the 20th centaury, although nothing since then as far as I'm aware. Not at all sure what will happen eventually or how any value will be assessed, if you have any info on this id like to hear more please feel free to send a PM


Thanks
Nash

 

[CRUSADER]

Hi Crusader
I don't know much about the treasure act, but do know that there would be no different law in South Wales. Yes, landowner will have a say and they are aware.

Just updated my profile a bit "with the flag" I've been dormant for too long on this board.

There were a lot of finds here early in the 20th centaury, although nothing since then as far as I'm aware. Not at all sure what will happen eventually or how any value will be assessed, if you have any info on this id like to hear more please feel free to send a PM


Thanks
Nash

I'm unsure why you handed it over. I would not have. They have no legal right under the Treasure Act unless its deemed to be of significant national historical interest. (One of the grey areas) Or it was from a ritual site which is another grey area. It is over 300 years old but it has no silver or gold content (or at least not 10% or more), so they can only record it under the PAS & return to finder. If you want it back & you have an agreement with the landowner, go get it. I assume you still have the PAS Receipt?

 

[CRUSADER]

PS. If they fudge it to be under the Act, you will get an independent valuation committee report. But this will not happen for at least 18 months. If they haven't asked for your details & the owners details (postal addresses) then ask for it back. Because these details are required by the Coroner to start the process.