Check this penny out....

[1235CE]

Got it in change today......"In God We" is completely missing as is the top of Lincolns head......grease filled die?.....over-polishing?....

HH all
Greg

 

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[EDDE]

looks altered...

 

[1235CE]

No, definately not altered....just wanted to know what the error is called....

Greg

 

[Emperor Findus Cladius]

Can you get a closer picture?

 

[Blackjack77]

I've always just refered to them as a weak strike. Interesting error but not too valuable.

 

[djui5]

No, definately not altered....just wanted to know what the error is called....

Greg

You sure? Looks like that area, including part of Lincons head, has been rubbed quite a bit. It's dull looking, with the rest of the coin being really shiny.

 

[EDDE]

see #2... not saying you fudged it just ,well what dj5 said

 

[Monty]

Looks like something the ACLU would want our coins to look like. No one is saying you did it, but someone prior to you finding it may have sanded or ground off the inscription. I would think a bad strike would be smoothe whereas this coin looks altered because of the roughened area where the inscription should be. I have to agree with the others unless you have a clearer picture to prove otherwise. Monty

 

[1235CE]

Being a rabid coin collector for 30+ years, I have seen MANY altered coins and this is not one of them.....nothing is sanded, filed, or ground down......the "ground down" area is just as smooth as the rest of the planchet.....seems as though that part of the die has "sheared off" if you can picture that.....I have tried to enlarge the picture but not sure if it will work....here goes...

Greg

 

[1235CE]

There, I like that pic better.....As I'm thinking about it.....look at the coin like this.....if indeed a part of the die sheared off (just a guess) there would be nothing at that part of the coin to make contact with the "raw" planchet....maybe the area that looks "rubbed" is actually the area of the "raw" planchet that the die never touched.....A coin does not attain luster and brightness if a die does not make contact with it.....Does that make any sense?.....And by no means do I think I have a valuable coin, just a mystery I am trying to figure out....

Greg

 

[1235CE]

Finally figured out how to maximize pics....this one is a little bigger...thanks for looking...

Greg

 

[djui5]

There, I like that pic better.....As I'm thinking about it.....look at the coin like this.....if indeed a part of the die sheared off (just a guess) there would be nothing at that part of the coin to make contact with the "raw" planchet....maybe the area that looks "rubbed" is actually the area of the "raw" planchet that the die never touched.....A coin does not attain luster and brightness if a die does not make contact with it.....Does that make any sense?.....And by no means do I think I have a valuable coin, just a mystery I am trying to figure out....

Greg

Makes perfect sense If you've been doing this for 30 years, you'd know better than I would. The up close picture looks better, but is still a touch blury

Not sure what caused it, does seem strange for sure.

 

[Roadquest]

Interesting, when you do find out. post it I'd like to know.

window of time

Roadquest

 

[MalteseFalcon]

I would say it has been altered. If there were grease in the die, it would still leave the area shinier than it is.
But then stranger things have happened. What do I know?

 

[Monty]

Is this a test? Expert collector asking a bunch of novices? I guess we flunked that one huh? Ask another question, I might know it! All joking aside, I have looked at that picture two ways from Sunday and it still looks like the inscription has been rubbed off leaving the surface marred. Maybe I need my eyes examined? I know I need my head examined for sticking with this. What the heck do I know? I certainly hope you do have a very rare valuable coin. Monty

 

[Jeffro]

Its not altered. A 1999 cent has a zinc core, which would be showing if it was "rubbed" off. It's grease in the die, or something. Perhaps a loose die that shifted to one side causing all the pressure to take on one side only? Hows the thickness measure? If its the same on both sides, I'd have to go with the grease.

 

[JDSCOIN]

It's a larger picture, but no more detailed. And that is what I think the person who had asked if you could post a larger meant.

To be able to determine more about it, we would have to see more detail. That means taking another or preferably more pictures of it. Is this loss of detail on the coin only on the obverse side? Actually, there are many cents which are like this, but to varying degrees.

It may or may not be a mint error. But we can help you to find out if it is or not if you can help us to see it better. The reason that I ask about the other side is that whenever we see a coin where some detail is lost or where a coin may have been struck after leaving the mint, there should be a corresponding mark or flattening on the opposite side or point of impact. Regards,

JDSCOIN

 

[enamel7]

I've found alot of these also. Not always the same place on the coin, but the same effect. I agree with the filled die theory. The smudge of grease and micro metal fragments could give the planchet a dull finish in the area affected.

 

[Postalrevnant]

Interesting find and theory. Thank you just taught me something else I did not know about.

Postalrevnant