CIVIL WAR BUCKLE

[John Boy]

Mike O'Donnell from American digger magazine emailed me today and this is what he told me.

It is from the Civil War period. Possibly dates as far back as 1850. Most likely a letter or number was applied to the center for a militia company. Also possible, but less likely, it had a unit emblem or even a state seal applied to the center. The overall design seems to be patterned after the U.S. Army’s 1840 two-piece US artillery plate. In that case, it would have had a plain wreath. Nice find!



I dug this up a few days ago in north Georgia. I believe its part of an officer's two piece buckle.Its got two holes in it where maybe an faceplate went or maybe something else.Maybe with alot of luck i can find the rest of it.Any ideals will be aprichiated. Thanks

 

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[jewelerguy]

yep, half of a tongue and wreath buckle. unfortunately, I don't know enough about them to tell if it's US or CS but I'm sure someone here can tell you for sure. very cool find!

 

[Tnmountains]

Nice find John Boy. Welcome to t-net. I am sure some of these buckle guys will chime in. You must have hunted after that big rain we had. Nice un.
HH
TnMtns

 

[tennessee digger]

Not sure of it's age but the holes were for an attachment that was applied to the buckle. It is a tongue for a tongue and wreath buckle, no doubt. Maybe someone with more knowledge can help. Tennessee digger

 

[John Boy]

Not sure of it's age but the holes were for an attachment that was applied to the buckle. It is a tongue for a tongue and wreath buckle, no doubt. Maybe someone with more knowledge can help. Tennessee digger

Thanks.It was standing straight up about 8 inchs down.Been trying to find the rest of it,hopefully its close by.

 

[ynpto804]

That is a nice buckle, but with out finding the front you may never know who wore it. I have seen that same applied style with many different attachments. Best advice is kieep looking.

 

[A/CMan]

Nice buckle, congrats!

 

[John Boy]

That is a nice buckle, but with out finding the front you may never know who wore it. I have seen that same applied style with many different attachments. Best advice is kieep looking.

Thanks I've been digging the ground up like a dog on crack.maybe something will turn up.

 

[oldsalty19]

 

[kuger]

Not necessarily an Officers or even Military.Cast and stamped brass Tongue and Wreath buckles were very popular Pre C.W..Yours is Cast Brass,and although there is a wide range of English Made Stamped brass tongues with a center piece attachment,I off the top of my head cant place one cast like yours.Great piece!

 

[John Boy]

Not necessarily an Officers or even Military.Cast and stamped brass Tongue and Wreath buckles were very popular Pre C.W..Yours is Cast Brass,and although there is a wide range of English Made Stamped brass tongues with a center piece attachment,I off the top of my head cant place one cast like yours.Great piece!

Thanks,good to know. I've found several civil war relics at the same site.Still trying to find the remains of it if possible. Thanks

 

[John Boy]

Nice find John Boy. Welcome to t-net. I am sure some of these buckle guys will chime in. You must have hunted after that big rain we had. Nice un.
HH
TnMtns

Hey thanks for the welcome. yeah rain helps a lot in that hard ground.Thanks buddy

 

[kuger]

Thanks,good to know. I've found several civil war relics at the same site.Still trying to find the remains of it if possible. Thanks

...thats where provenance comes into play...it could be a Officers,or it could be a Soldiers issue,or a soldiers privately acquired piece?I look through the books tonight

 

[John Boy]

...thats where provenance comes into play...it could be a Officers,or it could be a Soldiers issue,or a soldiers privately acquired piece?I look through the books tonight

Thanks for the help Kuger.yes I agree you never really know.Thought about taking it to a few of the civil wars dealers around here and see what they say about it.Thanks

 

[Gunrunner61]

Neat find John Boy, Where you at in N.Ga.? I'm in Dalton.

 

[John Boy]

Neat find John Boy, Where you at in N.Ga.? I'm in Dalton.

Hey Greg not far away from ya just a rock throw,well maybe if ya had a good arm on ya.I'm in Murray county.

 

[kuger]

Well,I have went through every major buckle book I own,and cant find an exact match.I t shares similarities with several,one being an early Riflemans buckle,also a common buckle we find that is patterned off of the 1841 Army(of course that one featured an Eagle and 27 Stars)but there are a few differences in each.The major one yours has that I can find no ther buckle with is the attachement holes.Possibly that was an "aftermarket",mod?I dunno?None the less thats a great and Unique find

 

[John Boy]

Well,I have went through every major buckle book I own,and cant find an exact match.I t shares similarities with several,one being an early Riflemans buckle,also a common buckle we find that is patterned off of the 1841 Army(of course that one featured an Eagle and 27 Stars)but there are a few differences in each.The major one yours has that I can find no ther buckle with is the attachement holes.Possibly that was an "aftermarket",mod?I dunno?None the less thats a great and Unique find

Thanks kuger for all the research and information you've done.I really appreciate it. Thanks

 

[John Boy]

Thanks everyone for all the help.

 

[johnnyblaze]

Sweet find

Definately need to do some more research to ID it..Post it in the what is it section..

The suspense would be eating me and i would need to know


Blaze