I have the stock and 5x8 coils for AT pro and AT Gold and have never had a need or desire for any others....as stated above the 5x8 is a super coil for separation and gets very good depth for its size. As for Discrimination, I don't use any o the AT pro. I always run it in Pro zero.....and dig by sound and target ID. The stock coil gets good depth when used this way.....I have dug civil war relics at the 10-12" range. Found a U.S. boxplate at over 12" deep....gave a faint but repeatable mid tone.