Colonial Relics, Mystery Pendant, and Bayonet(?)

[Lost Signal]

I'm in a coin drought, but I got out between showers yesterday and found a few nice relics. Two I'm particularly interested in getting some feedback on. Searching the internet, I can't find anything closely resembling the openwork pendant. The site goes back to the early 1700's and probably not much beyond that century. I'm also curious about the object that I'm calling a broken bayonet. If it is one, it's my first. Thoughts?

Thanks for looking.




These two strap guide pieces do not fit together. Thought for sure that they would.

 

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[Lost Signal]

That artifact sure looks like a pendant and has a figure on it so it seems to have some meaning. That seems like it would be more likely to be jewelry of some kind. The figure has to be identifiable, looks like octopus tentacles and one eye. Hopefully someone on here will see it and know what it is.

I think it's just stylized and not like a mythological figure or anything. The one eye is probably just due to crude casting. The scallop shell/fan-shapes were common in Baroque design, so maybe late 17th, early 18th century. IDK.

 

[DCMatt]

Not a pendant. I believe it is half of an 18th C cloak clasp.

 

[DCMatt]

The "bayonet" piece may be an 18th C drill bit.

 

[Lost Signal]

Not a pendant. I believe it is half of an 18th C cloak clasp.

Thanks, Matt. You and Walt have me convinced on this being a clasp. It could have been sewn on through the holes in the openwork and the loop is oriented the right way for it.

When I dug the "bayonet" my first thought was that it was a gouge of some sort, but a gouge couldn't work with that taper. I hadn't thought of a brace bit. I've never seen one like that, but it seems possible that it could work. I'll research that some more. Thanks, again.

 

[mbcuce]

Those strap guides are so ornamental. I haven?t seen that before. Dug plenty of plain ones.

 

[Hunk-a-lead]

no help here but love the unusual finds. well played sir

 

[CRUSADER]

Not a pendant. I believe it is half of an 18th C cloak clasp.

That was my first thought a cloak hasp.
However, as it has a person in the Lotus position (seated person), that would point towards an Indian (India) influence & not something you would get on an early Clasp, I think?!
It would be a little odd to have the seated person on its side as a hasp, but also a little odd to have a pendant with such a big loop.

 

[Lost Signal]

That was my first thought a cloak hasp.
However, as it has a person in the Lotus position (seated person), that would point towards an Indian (India) influence & not something you would get on an early Clasp, I think?!
It would be a little odd to have the seated person on its side as a hasp, but also a little odd to have a pendant with such a big loop.

Thanks for weighing in, Cru. I was thinking that it was odd to have a standing figure cut off at the waist. Now that you point it out though, the lotus position seems obvious. An Indian influenced design seems strange on the early 18th century site, where it was found, but maybe not, considering the British were in India at that time. I'd love to have this one solved, but I don't think it's going to happen.