County attempts to prosecute "authorities"

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County attempts to prosecute "authorities"

We all know the kind of trouble that WE would get into if we violated the Forest Service laws, the BLM laws, etc. Well, here in South Dakota, apparently, the "authorities" have the attitude of "everyone but us".

South Dakota is attempting to prosecute some of the acts of these authorities, and here is a little excerpt from my little hometown newspaper, the Edgemont Herald Tribune. (note, this is just a very small part of their list- from one of our representatives, Lance Russell - used to be our town lawyer, then the county lawyer, then the states Attorney, now a Representative

1. The National Park Service violated the Wilderness Act by transporting tourists in a 15 passenger van across designated wilderness areas.
375 F.3d 1085 (2003)

2. The Forest Service violated the Wilderness Act by planned repair of dams in Wilderness Area to enhance fisheries, downstream water flows and to preserve historical values. 436 F.Supp.2d 1117 (2006)

3. The Forest Service violated the Wilderness Act by allowing fires for visitors in areas where certain amount of firewood was available, allowing charcoal fires in areas closed to wood fires and allowing campfire use by commercial pack station in closed areas. 521 F.Supp.2d 1065 (2007)

4. The National Park Service violated the Wilderness Act by agreeing to preserve historical structures because the wilderness act only allows for natural historic and not man-made historic structures. 375 F.3d 1085 (2004).

5. The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service violated the Wilderness Act in allowing the sockeye salmon enhancement project to introduce hatchery-reared salmon into a lake within a designated wilderness area in or to swell Alaska salmon runs. 353 F.3d 1051 (2003)

These are just some of what he wrote. The numbers after the "allegations" are the parts of the Wilderness Act that pertains to the particular act.

I guess nobody would be surprised to know that, the "visitors" in #1 were family friends, not people like you and I, and the structures in #4 belongs to a relative of someone, and that the hatchery mentioned in #5 was a large operating hatchery who's owners made many contributions to certain people, and in #2, the "pack service" that was allowed to camp, etc., was an old croney of some of the officers?

They are stealing our land for themselves, and their friends and family. I believe their intent is to gain money and land, at our expense, while they tell us we cannot do this and that - and charge us if we DO want to go in. I hope this lawsuit goes well, because South Dakota's vision is to stop these folks from making their own regulations, behind the scenes - and to make sure that each state (not just SD) is a voting part of withdrawals of public land. Fingers crossed.

They are also trying to run a uranium pipeline through the wilderness area (along with Forest Service Land and BLM land, along with a large area where people would not be allowed (near the pipeline) - and they would be allowed motorized authorization to maintain the pipeline.

It's a mess, and the fact that they are trying to do this stuff right out in the open, tells me that they have been getting away with it forever, and don't feel like they have to be responsible.

When will they learn that they own NOTHING - not one acre belongs to these people - they are merely stewards - but yet, they are also planning on charging and making money from this pipeline - and other things. (not to mention that the uranium company is trying to get imminent domain over some patches of private ground).

Beth
 

Re: County attempts to prosecute "authorities"

This is exactly the kind of story the guy from Boston likes, he is very animated on most issues he tackles.
I love his punch line " remember you were thinking I got the b***s to say it "
Check out his website, he has many videos up and also has a spot on a radio show and has appeared on national TV shows.

Warning he does use language befitting of a sailor on shore leave.

www.theguyfromboston.com
 

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:thumbsup:

there is a rumor that the Dehart Dam area
(Resevoir for Harrisburg, off limits to everyone)
is the Private Fishing Area for the Capitol Gang
who come in... in a Limo to fish.

As I said Rumor but it's
still Not Right if they are afforded special treatment.
 

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Peerless67,

While a tad confusing - that's an interesting site you posted.

Jeff of Pa - I have heard that - my brother, who lives not too far from there, wanted to try and get some pictures of some stuff that was going on around there - but he said their was more than one thing - in his opinion, but, like you said, it is still rumor.

When Cheney had the hunting accident - he was in a preservation area where you or I could not hunt. There are paid car races that take place in wilderness areas in the desert. Do you know that you are supposed to pay the government if you take a picture of a place (on our public land) that we post or sell or send out to someone? But, movies are still being filmed in areas that we are not allowed any motorized equipment?
Did you know that 43 out of 50 states have been selling OUR public land. State land has been disappearing at an alarming rate. Awhile back - a few years ago - a state on the coast claimed eminent domain on some beach front property (saying they were going to build retaining walls, etc., to help protect the homes that were further back), and, instead, sold that property to a very large firm, who built custom, high priced condos on the property, not only not building retaining walls, etc., but blocking off the beach to 100's of previous home owners - and the states do not even own the beaches, but by owning the property in front of it, they blocked off the private streets where you had access to the beach.

I've been following this kind of stuff across the country for years - it gets worse and worse and worse. Regular Joe Blows, like us, don't stand a chance against the rich and the political. It does not matter if "we are the people".

I have hundreds of these true, not rumor, examples. This is, however, the first time I have seen a state finally stepping in - or trying to step in.

I will be following this one very closely.

B
 

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Sorry Mrs Oro, I posted a video but after watching it I thought I better remove it and post just the link to the site as sometimes the moderating here can be a little extreme.
But my point was to bring the guy to your attention as he loves to take on such stories.

:coffee2:
Gary
 

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The Forest Service people, are like Gestapo,,,,be careful
 

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I suspect, from what I been following so far, that this will be in the courts for ever and a day - I'm having trouble keeping track of just the motions
that they have been making. In fact, the first set of motions took up over 100 pages.........................

But the county has a lot of public support - in fact, apparently, they have been raising funds (the people) for the county. That's as unusual as it gets, and tells you how people feel.

While the BLM and some others can be a pain - the Forest Service is just about the worst, imo. They seem to answer to nobody.

One thing about these departments - like the BLM and Forest Service - the people who run them with an iron fist are not elected - they are appointed - and certainly don't seem to have much oversight. They say jump, and even congress says how high. And, believe me, it isn't a function of the republicans or the democrats - its just the way its been for many years and the longer they get away with it, the worse it gets.
And, for the most part, when we have gotten ONE person in that actually had some integrity, she went out the door in two years time.

I remember "the campaign" that I was part of - when they got rid of the Bureau of Mines - technically, they do not exist. That is how they are taking wilderness land that does not meet the proper standards. A full half, if not more, of the millions of acres that was withdrawn in California is mineralized - and the Bureau of Mines made a report in 1960's - I think it was, and then again in the late 80's about the mineralization in California, which means it was not eligible for withdrawal - Babbitt just dismantled the Bureau of Mines, threw out their reports and cozied up to Diane Fiendstein (misspelled on purpose), Barbara Boxer, and the Sierra Club, and shut off access to millions of acres.

Beth
 

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