✅ SOLVED Couple of things gun-related

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So I found this cylinder from a revolver at a very productive Civil War site I have been going to. Is there any way to tell if it's period or not? I really doubt it is, but there have been some other amazing things come out of this site (including the belt plate in my avatar) before, so I just want to be sure.

Also, the bullet on the right of the other picture has brass attached to it. Were brass cartridges used during that time period or did they just use paper ones? It sure looks to me like a CW 3-ringer bullet, but I have never found one with part of the cartridge attached before.
 

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THat's a wild looking gun! How long has serial numbering been used on stuff like this? I haven't been able to find one yet.
Hmmm, that's funny I've read dozens of times over a period of many years in various articles that the Colt-Patterson revolver was the first revolver, unfluted cylinder too.

The posting on the cap gun does look like a match.

Don
 

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Hmmm, that's funny I've read dozens of times over a period of many years in various articles that the Colt-Patterson revolver was the first revolver, unfluted cylinder too.

The posting on the cap gun does look like a match.

Don

It might surprise a lot of people because it's pretty commonly thought that Colt was the father of the revolver, but he was actually just the first to patent and manufacture a commercially available revolver as we think of them today.... His Patterson revolver was patented in 1836, but the oldest known revolver that I'm aware of was made 239 years earlier in Germany in 1597. It is a work of art and man I'd love to have a reproduction of this thing......

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