it is broken, im pretty sure it had a tip and it has a base, just cant get details to show in pics sometimes, i think it is a spear point and had a educated second opinion on that after the original post. in hand it is much easier to see this, so any opinions on what i have if indeed a spear point? it was not far from my hell gap point and has "similar" ,in my opinion, flaking. again these pics realy do the piece no justice, and the tip is missing from the right side of the first pic and in hand is clearly broken, an old break i believe