Cruel and Unusual Punishment...

[CTRollHunter]

Found these in a teller's tray yesterday!!!!!!!!! I thought for sure she would say she was keeping them, but, instead I got them for $2!





My second and third SILVER dollars CRHing. I was grinning from ear to ear.

For about 10 seconds. Both are fakes. Look especially at the reeding on the right side of the Morgan. It's in straight lines!

I wasn't too upset, however. Earlier in the day I found eighteen 90% and forty 40% halves plus six silver dimes. Almost 13 ounces in one day.

Plus two fake silver dollars *sigh*.

The coin gods giveth and the coin gods taketh away...I am going to sacrifice another fatted bull for the coin gods tonight...

 

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[mxh5891]

It just looks like PMD to me. But I have no experience spotting fakes. What makes the peace dollar a fake?

 

[CTRollHunter]

It just looks like PMD to me. But I have no experience spotting fakes. What makes the peace dollar a fake?

The ring test (the sound it makes when you drop it) is a dead giveaway. Also the bubbling on the surface of the Morgan. And the color in person is wrong. More steel grey than silver. If I really wanted to check I would measure and weigh them both also.

 

[enamel7]

Hey, you got them at the bank. Take em back!

 

[ThePt78Gamer]

I disagree enamel. It probly isn't worth the gas to return these two fake silver dollars, and bringing KNOWINGLY fake money into the bank just sounds like it would be more trouble than what $2 he may or may not get back. Plus, this may lead to them no longer accepting these large dollars anymore due to fear of them being fake, which in turn would make it impossible to ever find a silver dollar at this bank again. (You never know when a real one could come in... it happens....)

 

[goldencoin]

I don't think they're fake, the bubbling on the surface is due to heat/fire damage and the unusual color is from polishing. Looking at the bag marks on both, it seems they were properly circulated. Normally, fakes don't have big glaring problems about them (since they'd be worth less, who buys bad fakes?). Check with a magnet first, then weight, or take to a pawn shop. A pawn shop is better at spotting fakes than a coin shop in my opinion

HH
-GC

 

[kingskid1611]

I don't think they are fake. I would also do the magnet test. Fake or real it is still a good score day on the other silver. And I happen to collect faked dollars......

 

[enamel7]

Well I wouldn't be worried about returning fake coins back to a teller I got them from. Besides, saying a bank won't take them in anymore, how often are they seen anyway? Also distance to the bank doesn't matter if it's not out of the way. I would still test them, but the Morgan definitely doesn't look right to me and the Peace looks casted.

 

[LooseChange]

... the Peace looks casted.

Normally I wouldn't mention it, but for as many times as we've heard Correct term is "doubled", not "double" . . .

I can't help but say . . .

Correct term is "cast" not "casted".

 

[stefen]

Jeez...a spelling hand slap...how inappropriate...

 

[LooseChange]

Jeez...a spelling hand slap...how inappropriate...

This one is purely in jest. Enamel7 busts balls in the CRH forum over the mistaken use of "double die" in place of "doubled die" on a regular basis. I'm just returning the favor - entirely in fun.

 

[enamel7]

Understood. No problem.

 

[FormerTeller]

Weigh them, then take to your LCS. My money is on them being real. I don't see anyone faking a 1922 Peace dollar, nor an 1884 Morgan.

 

[citystacker]

I've been dealt a bad hand with fake 22 peace dollars before paying $15 each, then finding out when I got home and weighed them they were fake. They were probably made in China-looked UNC-but back of them looked "off"-the strike didn't look real clear for the condition-motto, denomination, feathers, etc. So it does happen!

 

[starkizzle]

I have been there too... trust me, people will fake anything

 

[LooseChange]

... I don't see anyone faking a 1922 Peace dollar, nor an 1884 Morgan.

It seems that they fake them just to dupe the buyer over the (supposed) silver content.
Chinese Coin Counterfeiting Ring Makes Fake Silver Coins

Someone posted to CRH once about fake mercs.
Fake Mercs

 

[LooseChange]

Here is a source for those coin years (not necessarily those coins, but years match).
The links are for "replica" coins without stamp and non-magnetic (silver plated brass).

Replica (1884,1884 S,1884 O,1884 CC) 4 PC Morgan One Dollar/NO STAMPED on Aliexpress.com | Alibaba Group
FREE SHIPPING wholesale Replica 1922 S Peace Dollar Coins Copy 100% coper manufacturing silver plated on Aliexpress.com | Alibaba Group

Less than $2 each.

 

[maine_Jim]

I would take them to a gold & silver dealer if they pass the magnet test and you are driving by one. If they think they are real they probably are. If fake then you paid a fair price for them to have a couple examples of fake coins. I have a stack of Chinese coins that came with a collection I purchased. They all had the same look and stick to the magnet. The rest of the collection was fine and the seller even said he thought they were fake so he tossed them in. I bought some fake California gold coins once from a pawn shop. I knew they were fake so I only paid a couple bucks for them. They were even in some 2X2 flips with $85 prices written on them! The pawn shop guy knew they were fake but didn't usually deal in coins so I don't know if he got taken.

Maine_Jim