CW Tent Rope Fastener

[Yak1366]

Thanks to my bud Davers for id'ing this piece from his crappy phone the other day while we were both in the field!!! I hope I didn't cut in to your digging time too much D.



I can imagine if I had posted this in 'What is it', I would probably have received a half dozen 'pot handle' responses before being correctly id'ed.

 

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[Joe G from Md]

Nice find ,I have one of those to, never knew what it was thanks

 

[Davers]

Thanks to my bud Davers for id'ing this piece from his crappy phone the other day while we were both in the field!!! I hope I didn't cut in to your digging time too much D.
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I can imagine if I had posted this in 'What is it', I would probably have received a half dozen 'pot handle' responses before being correctly id'ed.
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Hey now , I did not see it until I got home after 9 pm & Only Guessed what it might be .
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No you did not waste any of my digging time, actually I had pulled my 'Cheap' phone out from the depths of my Cargo pants to make sure it was on Vibe 'in case the Land Owner needed to move my Car , etc. & To take a picture of the Case Shot I had just dug , originally took my picture with my Camera then sent you one while I was at it 'Right before it (the phone) frustrated me enough to take a Nose Dive onto those RR tracks I pictured & sent to you.

You must be a psychic cause once I start hunting the only thing that Stops me are 'usually' Buttons , uncommon relics , or Box Turtles.

Thanks for the Honorable Mention.
Davers

 

[Yak1366]

I may have this dated wrong. It could very well be late 1800's to WWI.

 

[fyrffytr1]

They were patented November 30, 1880. I have several from a Spanish-American war camp site near my house. Here's one with the patent date on it.

 

[Dharmacy]

Here's one I dug in a WWI dump site.

D.

 

[Worm-Slicer]

Yep, they are correct, these are post Civil War.

 

[Yak1366]

I see exactly where I have errored. When I searched for "civil war tent rope brass" yesterday, the results came back with exact images of my piece and a few other variations. After going into only two links and reading those descriptions, I was satisfied the were CW. I then posted my thread and went back to the search and started finding debates on how old these were. Of course, some say Spanish-American, WWI.

These are many links mis-identifying these as CW and I got caught by it. The last thing I would ever want to do is post incorrect information.
Should I delete this thread?

 

[Joe G from Md]

I say leave it on, I learned from it, maybe someone else can also.

 

[Dharmacy]

I would say leave it too. This is commonly mis-identified, so it could help someone who may find one.

D.

 

[Yak1366]

I've modified the Thread Tags to reflect the Patent Date.

There is no doubt this is mis-identified a lot!!! I could list a dozen links that all say it's CW.

Thanks for all the clarifications gentlemen.

 

[Davers]

I see exactly where I have errored. When I searched for "civil war tent rope brass" yesterday, the results came back with exact images of my piece and a few other variations. After going into only two links and reading those descriptions, I was satisfied the were CW. I then posted my thread and went back to the search and started finding debates on how old these were. Of course, some say Spanish-American, WWI.

These are many links mis-identifying these as CW and I got caught by it. The last thing I would ever want to do is post incorrect information.
Should I delete this thread?

I'd leave it up; I thought these were a point of debate , some still swear 'some' are Civil War era.

I totally forgot about the Pat, marked ones.

Maybe the unmarked ones were used for Years then somebody realized there was no 'Patent' on them , then applied & reaped the benefits .

That's the way I would like to think it was.

Still a nice Keeper of a find.

As a matter a fact ; my club has given away Cases with these & other CW relics as prizes at our club hunts. Sooooo?

 

[fyrffytr1]

It is the other way around. I think that a patent is good for 7 years and after that anyone can make the same item. Or the original maker doesn't have to put the date on them anymore. Of course I could be wrong about all of this. If so, hopefully someone will set me straight.

 

[Davers]

It is the other way around. I think that a patent is good for 7 years and after that anyone can make the same item. Or the original maker doesn't have to put the date on them anymore. Of course I could be wrong about all of this. If so, hopefully someone will set me straight.

This sounds right to me. & Makes good sense.

 

[Carolina Tom]

I have a couple of them, and am aware of the mis-dating issue. Mine were ID'd as WW1.

Still a nice find. Good luck sir!

 

[villagenut]

I am one of those stubborn guys who think that maybe.....Just maybe, they were produced earlier than the patented examples by some poor fellow that never thought to get his idea patented. I have found these among CW artifacts that I think never got camped on with tents as a post war site. But I now state my disclaimer....I have been wrong before, my wife tells me so often enough

 

[Davers]

I am one of those stubborn guys who think that maybe.....Just maybe, they were produced earlier than the patented examples by some poor fellow that never thought to get his idea patented. I have found these among CW artifacts that I think never got camped on with tents as a post war site. But I now state my disclaimer....I have been wrong before, my wife tells me so often enough

Ahhhhh, The debate continues. lol

 

[Yak1366]

I think until someone comes up with an authentic period(CW) photograph of a tent with these on it instead of the dogbones, we have to go with the patent documents.