Early 1700s pewter toy pocket watch face

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Last weekend I was detecting in a creek that runs through a plantation that was started in the 1680s, where I have found many colonial era and some Rev War relics. There was a large brick mansion on the property with a main entrance road that crossed over the creek not far from the house. Saturday I discovered evidence of the bridge, mainly bricks in the bank and in the creek at one spot.

Tuesday Dirtstalker and I returned to the creek to hunt the bridge and the rest of the creek. I was working the bank where the bricks were and dug a brass flat button out of the side of the bank.

Then just a few feet away I hit another good signal and dug a flat, thin metal disc out of the bank about an inch deep. I could see that it was very ornamental and my initial thought was dandy button, but it had a small hole in the middle. I called Allen over and we looked it over and came up with a guess that it was a sundial.

The rest of the day was slow-I found a dropped. 69 caliber round ball and some sort of tiny silver bead and that was it. Allen's Deus went lame (but the AT Pro worked like a champ :laughing7:) and we called it an early day.

I posted the mystery find this morning in the "What Is It" forum and several members made useful contributions. I also messaged Crusader about the item. He replied and told me that in the 18th century there were pewter toy pocket watches for "rich kids." Using this lead I used Google to find pictures of a toy watch face on the UK "Portable
Antiquities" web site:

https://finds.org.uk/database/artefacts/record/id/279671

I have posted a picture of another one found in the UK with the case.

These toy watches were made between 1700 and 1750. The faces were designed to mimic real watches made in the late 1600s; the one I found reads "HUX" and "LONDON". Hux made pewter watches during that period.

You can see diagonal notches along the rim; the toys had a spring and brass strip that rested on the rim. The kids could change the time by turning the dial clockwise and it would make a clicking noise.

I'm pretty stoked to find such a unique relic, especially knowing its provenance. The plantation owners were one of the wealthiest families in South Carolina in the 18th century and the toy probably belonged to one of their children. I would imagine the kid dropped it on the bridge and it fell through cracks and was lost for over 250 years-until my lucky day. :headbang:
 

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Wow...that really is a cool find!
 

Glenn first off that place is Cursed at least it has one on me. First Deus goes lame then my Carrot dies(rip) :laughing7: I have been there several times and couldn't find my butt with both hands. Its just one of those places I never had a good feeling about and it doesn't like me either. That said......
Congratulations on such a unique find and researching it and finding out what it actually is. Based on the fact I never have seen such one on here or anywhere and it's so unique. I Vote Banner
 

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Cool find and congrats on the research to pinpoint the match. Sounds like T-Rav's great granddaddy dropped that thing.
 

Congratualtions on the historical find! :occasion14:
 

Hi; You may want to consider donating it to the Plantation in a frame as it has no known value other than it's History value. I think it would be great to have your name on a Plaque as the Donor. Just think of the PR it would give you and the hobby not to mention some of the closed doors now opening up for you. It's a WIN WIN Situation. Good Luck. Let s know ok. PEACE:RONB
 

Unfortunately the plantation is no longer in existence.
 

Although I knew they existed, this is actually a rare find in the UK, so must be very rare over there. I've had the odd 18th C pewter toy but not seen this type before.

CONGRATS.
 

Although I knew they existed, this is actually a rare find in the UK, so must be very rare over there. I've had the odd 18th C pewter toy but not seen this type before.

CONGRATS.
Thanks again for your help!
 

Tell ya what It would be cool if you could go back and find the other piece. Then donate the whole thing to the soon to open DirtStalker Museum.:occasion14:
 

Well now that's something I've never seen on TreasureNet before! VERY cool find! Great that it's the entire face, not bent or partially gone.

Cheers,

Buck
 

VERY nice find!!! Huge congrats.
 

Well now that's something I've never seen on TreasureNet before! VERY cool find! Great that it's the entire face, not bent or partially gone.

Cheers,

Buck

Thanks Buck!
 

That's a cool piece of history Good job!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Hi; Then maybe the local Historical Society. I'm positive they would love to have it on display. Think about it. It is truly a RARE piece that would be great on display and your name would be tied to the Town forever for all to see not to mention the PR and the doors it could open for you that were closed before. Great Find. I'm thinking of Voting for it as a BANNER find. PEACE:RONB :leprechaun-hat:
 

That's a great piece! The first I've seen posted here.
 

Hi; Then maybe the local Historical Society. I'm positive they would love to have it on display. Think about it. It is truly a RARE piece that would be great on display and your name would be tied to the Town forever for all to see not to mention the PR and the doors it could open for you that were closed before. Great Find. I'm thinking of Voting for it as a BANNER find. PEACE:RONB :leprechaun-hat:

Thanks Ron-that's something to consider.
 

That is a really awesome find!
 

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