Ever see these?

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Well UMC stands for Union Metallic Cartridge Company that was later acquired by Remington. .38-40 was a dual-purpose caliber that was used in both pistols and leverguns (Winchester first offered Model 1873 rifles chambered for this caliber in 1879), so that a person who carried both a pistol and a rifle only had to pack one type of cartridge. Some Colt Single-Action Pistols, better known as "Six-Shooters" also came in this caliber. Another better-known example of an "all-around" cartridge was the .44-40 Henry. There's a field that I hunt in Michigan that I dig .44-40 rimfire cases up at every time I visit it.

Here's a link about a replica Model 1873 Winchester chambered in .38-40 : http://www.gunblast.com/Chaparral-1873.htm

I have no clue about the other cartridge though :(

HH,
SgtSki
 

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UMC is as stated earlier --Union Metallic Cartridge. That "un broken" bullet looks like a 45 caliber Automatic Colt Pistol (45 ACP) cartridge and 17 would be the year of arsenal manufacture. Best guess with the photo and all.

Stryker
 

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Optichip said:
Brass thing reminds me of a plum...
if its a plumb bob, it would be heavy... is it?

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Took some better pics of the token.
 

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savant365 said:
It's hard to tell from the pic but the brass piece looks like an oxy/acetylene torch tip.
No holes in the point. After everyone said it im pretty sure its a plumbob.
 

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srss said:
savant365 said:
It's hard to tell from the pic but the brass piece looks like an oxy/acetylene torch tip.
No holes in the point. After everyone said it im pretty sure its a plumbob.
Ive seen a lot of plumb bobs, and truthfully it doesnt look like one. Every one I saw was very heavy and came to a point. The point is usually steel.
 

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