Thanks but this is just what I'm thinking.What I like to do is detect in woods till ticks come out and stuff grows in, then I move to parks and stuff like that.In the woods you need something light that goes deep cause you also got to get to the spot you want to detect.It would be nice if you could get a unit that would fold up like the atx. Parks on the other hand are a little easier, something with dept and good in trash.I also considered v3i in stead of explorer. If the price was right. Price is a factor don't want etrac cause there is talk of a new one coming out. I no the explorer se is the one before the etrac so it has to be simaler except etrac is more stable and I do have at pro. A lot of people around use ace 250 here so that is where the explorer comes in my type of detecting is50/50 so need to detectors. Also my mind isn't made up .feed back is nice but hard to get.l looked at minelabs 3030,etrac, explorers. Whites m6 , dfx ,mxt ,v3i.fishers, f75,cz3d. Tesoro outlaw,vaq,cort,cabola. , also deuse . blistool and some others. I would buy new with warranties .