find of the summer ( maby the year ) for me and the wife

[jeffdt1966]

Wife found this one ... double chamber reed pipe ... almost cleaned ..one chamber opened , next one started . From the bird heads on the cleaner bowl .. I'm guessing Mississippian ... southeastern ceremonial complex likely .. but I could be wrong …. what looks like clay or something holding it all together appears to be made to only look that way … it's looking like it may all be the same rock …. tricky art lol

thought's ? … anyone seen one before ? …. I cant really find anything to compare it too online ….

 

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[Tdog]

Not tricky at all. I don't see one nor multiple bird heads. Also, what is a cleaner bowl; a Double chamber? I've not seen these terms in any artifact glossary but I've not seen it all either! I think it's a concretion that formed around something (such as a root) and eventually eroded away and left the channel & casting. A geofact. JMHO

 

[Relicgrubber]

Double Chambered Reed Pipe... I’ll apologize first... I’m sorry but I had to laugh at that one.

 

[jeffdt1966]

the cleaner chamber of the two and the bird looking figures come together at the rim of the cleanest chamber ( still in cleaning process ) was packed in very old crude

 

[jeffdt1966]

the first pipes did not have stems , they used hollow reeds to insert into the pipe ….

 

[jeffdt1966]

really people the hollow part of a pipe is called the chamber …….. jeez … just forget it … just move it to geofacts …. I think I may have over estimated the crowd here

 

[Huzzah!]

You aren’t a real member of Tnet until you get chastised, anyways. Don’t take it personal.

 

[catherine1]

I thought it was a pottery lug at first.......its most likely a concretion. They drilled the pipes with reeds and sand for future reference. What the NA used for a pipe stem is dust by now. The hollow part of a pipe is called the bowl or the stem also. Chamber huh.

 

[Mine Shaft]

I don't think you could smoke with that without burning the crap out of your nose lol.

 

[Fred250]

Even if it’s not a pipe it’s cool. Take pics of where the stem would insert, not seeing it.

 

[smokeythecat]

I'm leaning also to concretion. I have no idea how you'd smoke it.

 

[arrow86]

Not sure bout that one , there’s a few beaches I hunt that have a lot of similar items ..... the area is rich with iron deposit and it forms some really crazy shapes many of them hollowed out. What material is this made from ? Can you post cleaner pics of the inside ?

 

[Tdog]

really people the hollow part of a pipe is called the chamber …….. jeez … just forget it … just move it to geofacts …. I think I may have over estimated the crowd here

No, you didn't over estimate, you UNDER ESTIMATED the crowd here. I think most of us realize about stem and reed usage for pipes. Many trade pipes and others require a stem and sometimes but not necessarily a reed is used. Wrong again on the hollow part; it is the bowl and shaft. You just didn't get the supportive answers you expected and that is why you're pissy about it. I've seen this attitude MANY times.

 

[Toecutter]

Please post video of a demonstration

 

[Tdog]

I don't think you could smoke with that without burning the crap out of your nose lol.

I think I could--and I have a big nose! Pack it tight and turn it side-ways!

Edit: M.S. ... I thought you Californian's were experts on this subject!

 

[Saguache]

You aren’t a real member of Tnet until you get chastised, anyways. Don’t take it personal.

Ain'it tha truth...

 

[Tdog]

Jeff... I'll only tell you the truth about what I'm seeing as most others here will too. No need to coddle an incorrect assumption. There's no shame in being wrong. Maybe embarassment but being ignorant and trying to stand your ground is pathetic! You have to be thick-skinned in this hobby. I've got a concretion that I once thought was a spoon or something of the sort. Boy was my face red when I found out and eventually accepted the facts about it. It now lies in my yard with the rest of the lab specimens. I've been doing this for 50+ years. I should have papers but I don't. I'm just an avocational flunkee! The silent ones here either just don't know or think you're already taking enough of a beating. Welcome to Tnet!

 

[jeffdt1966]

then then you should have no problem admitting your wrong then … it is an artifact that is only partly cleaned … it does have bird looking figures on the pipe bowl … the bowl is fully drilled to the point the hollow reed was inserted to smoke out of …. yes there are multiple examples of single bowl stemless pipes from the same period... the shallow larger dimple is the bottom and the well known Mississippian ring is coming out nicely on the bottom . Yes I will excuse the hell out of your personal opinion being the same as facts in your mind … If you truly believe that this is a geofact …. fine , but remember … in real life it's still a pretty rare artifact ….

 

[quito]

Jeff I am sure looking forward to the day you come back and rub every doubters nose in it after you get it thoroughly cleaned,......or admit you were incorrect.

 

[GopherDaGold]

No, you didn't over estimate, you UNDER ESTIMATED the crowd here. I think most of us realize about stem and reed usage for pipes. Many trade pipes and others require a stem and sometimes but not necessarily a reed is used. Wrong again on the hollow part; it is the bowl and shaft. You just didn't get the supportive answers you expected and that is why you're pissy about it. I've seen this attitude MANY times.

This is why I stopped giving opinions.

but...

At first glance I thought it was a crude NA wedding vessel.