Finding stone with gold in everywhere.

[aarthrj3811]

~Saturna~

FINALLY, a little bit of honesty. Except it's not the LRL that's gets you near the target. It's your brain taking you to logical, likely detecting areas.

Good Logic…Then he can just leave all his tools at home?..After all. You told us that it is all in the mind..Why even take a conventional metal detector with him? Will the brain do the digging also?..Art

 

[fenixdigger]

Sat; please read the post about the huge target misses. We have been through this before. If you believe my mind can get me within 2 inches of a target in a 1 sq. mile area, I have some nice swamp land for sale. Done this, posted pictures of areas we did this in, some over 1,000 acres with only 2 targets, showed SOME of the finds. I have put the random chance thing to the acid test and it failed badly. Watch swamp people on the tube. that's where we hunt. All those cute little reasons you guys come up with that we surely can't be doing this, are just that. Cute little opinionated reasons. They dam sure don't go with us, so they must stay in this forum. Good place for them.

I don't think you are really grasping what I am saying. Is anyone else getting this? Sometimes I do talk over people's heads. don't mean to do it, just happens. You aren't pulling a Sparky are you? Just picking out what you want and ignoring the rest. Say it ain't so.

 

[architecad]

~Saturna~

FINALLY, a little bit of honesty. Except it's not the LRL that's gets you near the target. It's your brain taking you to logical, likely detecting areas.

Good Logic…Then he can just leave all his tools at home?..After all. You told us that it is all in the mind..Why even take a conventional metal detector with him? Will the brain do the digging also?..Art

Saturna said "Except it's not the LRL that's gets you near the target. It's your brain taking you to logical, likely detecting areas."

This is the most fantastic phrase that I never-ever hear before. The only problem is prove. If Saturna can prove that any brain can detect gold from a distance, then, a question comes up; why there are poor people in the World?

Congra. Saturna. You got 4.00 or "A" grade in this forum.

Arch

 

[architecad]

Sat; please read the post about the huge target misses. We have been through this before. If you believe my mind can get me within 2 inches of a target in a 1 sq. mile area, I have some nice swamp land for sale. Done this, posted pictures of areas we did this in, some over 1,000 acres with only 2 targets, showed SOME of the finds. I have put the random chance thing to the acid test and it failed badly. Watch swamp people on the tube. that's where we hunt. All those cute little reasons you guys come up with that we surely can't be doing this, are just that. Cute little opinionated reasons. They dam sure don't go with us, so they must stay in this forum. Good place for them.

I don't think you are really grasping what I am saying. Is anyone else getting this? Sometimes I do talk over people's heads. don't mean to do it, just happens. You aren't pulling a Sparky are you? Just picking out what you want and ignoring the rest. Say it ain't so.

Fenix

The 10 years that I used my MFD, always, always, always I left behind many signals without analyze and track it. Why? Sometime the area around was too wild. Sometime I concentrated in one signal with strong L-rod crossing or sometimes, the signal got lost among high bushes.

Arch

 

[Kentucky Kache]

I'm sure some of the devices are total crap. No, SWR I will not furnish a list or any reports. I'm sure some are not functioning due to poor Q/C when made. Again, no lists or reports. When I am B/S' ing it should be obvious. The rest??,, Things happen during the week that I don't believe could happen. But after seeing it repeat several times,,, well you get to a point of stupidity not to reconsider.

Actually, the point of stupidity is believing a pocket calculator can produce various "treasure hunting" frequencies. Another point of stupidity is believing a basic non-amplified frequency generator can somehow cause metals to resonate hundreds of feet away, and cause dowsing wands to point to those metals.

So, it sounds like you believe it would work if amplified.

 

[aarthrj3811]

~SWR~

Actually, the point of stupidity is believing a pocket calculator can produce various "treasure hunting" frequencies. Another point of stupidity is believing a basic non-amplified frequency generator can somehow cause metals to resonate hundreds of feet away, and cause dowsing wands to point to those metals.

I like this discussion about stupidity

. I'm glad ya brought it up!

Wrong .. http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,393152.0.html
http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,393139.0.html

 

[architecad]

I'm sure some of the devices are total crap. No, SWR I will not furnish a list or any reports. I'm sure some are not functioning due to poor Q/C when made. Again, no lists or reports. When I am B/S' ing it should be obvious. The rest??,, Things happen during the week that I don't believe could happen. But after seeing it repeat several times,,, well you get to a point of stupidity not to reconsider.

Actually, the point of stupidity is believing a pocket calculator can produce various "treasure hunting" frequencies. Another point of stupidity is believing a basic non-amplified frequency generator can somehow cause metals to resonate hundreds of feet away, and cause dowsing wands to point to those metals.

I like this discussion about stupidity. I'm glad ya brought it up!

SWR said

"Another point of stupidity is believing a basic non-amplified frequency generator can somehow cause metals to resonate hundreds of feet away, and cause dowsing wands to point to those metals."

You're telling me MFD's really works, the only thing is to amplify the signal in order to broadcast further. if a MFD had a amplifier that it could amplify the signal from the frequency generator, I could reach a target as far as 2 miles? Is this your thought?

Arch

 

[fenixdigger]

Somehow when the mention of stupidity came up, I knew you would pop up. Cool picking out a word or two of a post so it looks like

it agrees with you. Still whining about the Examiner that you don't understand I see. Cool. Good job Sparky Ark, ark, ark, it works.

As far as an amp I had one that would put ripples in a mud puddle. It did soup up the ones not on the list also. Refining the freqs. may make this stop. At the time 1985 not a wide choice on freqs. Now the equipment is a lot more precise.

 

[fenixdigger]

I will say that you do have some sweet computer skills. Like manipulating photos and posts. If you are going to quote someone why not use the whole thing, not just the words that you like?

Again I mention that these tell-tell signs are not something you should let go unchecked.

The big thing that everyone is missing is that most of these devices are not affecting anything at a distance. A target emanates a force, energy, signal, or whatever it is, in all directions. Size and time in the ground determines how far and how strong. Type of soils also seems to play a part.

Most of the devices simply turn the user into an antenna to pick up certain reactions to this force. The devices "lock on" as to the direction this force is coming from. This force carries a lot of info. Size, distance, shape, etc.

Some of the problems are; force "reflects" off other metals such as aluminum, hardened steel, some brass, and other metals.
Very small pieces buried a long time (millions of years) have a signal larger that a large target buried 100 yrs.
Lines of this force may not be straight due to earths magnetism, other metals "pulling" at it. Once you are in the field more of these will show up.

This proves itself every trip out. If you need proof, it is out in the yard. Try to disprove it before you comment and look like a complete kook. If this theory is uncomfortable to you, sorry about that, but it has proven itself hundreds of times.

Any LRL user that has different experience, please post it. Non LRL users, your opinion,,, well you know.

 

[aarthrj3811]

Yes fenixdigger.. This proves itself every trip out. If you need proof, it is out in the yard. Try to disprove it before you comment and look like a complete kook. If this theory is uncomfortable to you, sorry about that, but it has proven itself hundreds of times.
We know that from the Skeptics comments that they have become experts by testing all the LRL’s and MFD’s on the Market (over 100 of them) and all the home made devices in the whole world..Darn..I forgot that they have not done this..They read the advertisements and look at photo’s to determine how they work…Art

 

[architecad]

Yes fenixdigger.. This proves itself every trip out. If you need proof, it is out in the yard. Try to disprove it before you comment and look like a complete kook. If this theory is uncomfortable to you, sorry about that, but it has proven itself hundreds of times.
We know that from the Skeptics comments that they have become experts by testing all the LRL’s and MFD’s on the Market (over 100 of them) and all the home made devices in the whole world..Darn..I forgot that they have not done this..They read the advertisements and look at photo’s to determine how they work…Art

Art
I agree with you. Putting picture how is inside doesn't tell me how it will work in the field, but skeptics only pay attention in what they see when they open a MFD.

Arch.

 

[aarthrj3811]

Art
I agree with you. Putting picture how is inside doesn't tell me how it will work in the field, but skeptics only pay attention in what they see when they open a MFD.

Most of them have never saw a MFD in person and have never opened one up..they look at photo’s or read advertisements to get all their information…Art

 

[EE THr]

fenix---

Logic alone can indicate the possibility of something, or even the probability of it. But logic alone will never prove anything.

If there are so many successful LRL users, why hasn't a single one ever proven that they are successful, by taking Carl's $25K? It can be, and has been, argued that LRLers don't need to prove anything; but if that were so, then you and the other LRL promoters wouldn't be on here every day, very strongly insisting that they work!

You are your own contradiction in logic. Therefore, the more you try to make your claims "compute," the less they actually do.

That makes you and the other LRL promoters, the best "skeptics" on here.

So far, someone claimed that Carl's test is fraudulent, although nobody has ever posted any documentation that they have taken the test, and what it's outcome was, or shown a document that they had been denied taking the test.

One person said that taking the test was "illogical." Yeah, nobody wants $25K, right?

And the rest just drifted away from the question, pretending that it was a different question.

They even suggested taking a video of an LRL "not working." What would that look like?

If they want to prove that LRLs work, without revealing the supposed "treasures" that they claim to find, then the perfect solution to that would be tests like Carl's or Randi's, wouldn't it. Yep!

But it still stands that not a single LRL owner has used the test to prove their point, and yet they still keep trying very hard to convince people that they actually work.

What's wrong with this picture?

 

[fenixdigger]

I'll tell you 1 more time what is wrong. If you don't get it this time, forget a repetitive answer.

THIS IS A PLOY TO GET THE PROCEDURE AS TO MARKET IT AND MAKE A FORTUNE OFF OF SOME FOOL THAT "HAS" TO PROVE A POINT.

If there is a part of this you don't understand, too bad. You should be ashamed to even participate in this kind of chicanery. Get some

ethics about yourself. You don't need proof, you don't use these. If for some reason you "must" have proof, go out in the yard and either

prove or disprove it. quit being lazy and trying to get someone else to do it and helping steal their life's work. Shameful.

Now start with the lame excuses to justify this attempted thievery.

 

[hung]

Hi Art, Fenix.
Here's some nice rocks with gold.
They were detected by the Mineoro FG80.

White part is the lodestone.
Red part is the ionizing reaction from the ore.
Yellow is powder gold.
Those were found by a friend who does gold mining for a living and it's a long time FG80 user.

 

[architecad]

I'll tell you 1 more time what is wrong. If you don't get it this time, forget a repetitive answer.

THIS IS A PLOY TO GET THE PROCEDURE AS TO MARKET IT AND MAKE A FORTUNE OFF OF SOME FOOL THAT "HAS" TO PROVE A POINT.

If there is a part of this you don't understand, too bad. You should be ashamed to even participate in this kind of chicanery. Get some

ethics about yourself. You don't need proof, you don't use these. If for some reason you "must" have proof, go out in the yard and either

prove or disprove it. quit being lazy and trying to get someone else to do it and helping steal their life's work. Shameful.

Now start with the lame excuses to justify this attempted thievery.

Fenix

Please, Use "quote" fixture, because sometime nobody knows to who you're addressing.

Arch

 

[fenixdigger]

Sorry Arch. I'm sure the right person got the point. They keep pushing this ploy to steal any accurate recovery method, using childish tactics to trick someone into doing it. OOOH, take the test, pay no attention to the swine rip-off artist waiting to snatch up your work and get rich with it.

 

[architecad]

Sorry Arch. I'm sure the right person got the point. They keep pushing this ploy to steal any accurate recovery method, using childish tactics to trick someone into doing it. OOOH, take the test, pay no attention to the swine rip-off artist waiting to snatch up your work and get rich with it.

Fenix

Thanks for the link about Freq. Generator. it's very interesting.

Arch

 

[EE THr]

I'll tell you 1 more time what is wrong. If you don't get it this time, forget a repetitive answer.

THIS IS A PLOY TO GET THE PROCEDURE AS TO MARKET IT AND MAKE A FORTUNE OFF OF SOME FOOL THAT "HAS" TO PROVE A POINT.

If there is a part of this you don't understand, too bad. You should be ashamed to even participate in this kind of chicanery. Get some

ethics about yourself. You don't need proof, you don't use these. If for some reason you "must" have proof, go out in the yard and either

prove or disprove it. quit being lazy and trying to get someone else to do it and helping steal their life's work. Shameful.

Now start with the lame excuses to justify this attempted thievery.

That's all very interesting, but ambiguous.

Are you claiming that you have a secret device, which is the only thing which is capable of scoring 70% on Carl's test?

Or are you claiming that you have a secret method of using any LRL, which is the only thing which is capable of scoring 70% on Carl's test?

Or are you claiming that all LRLs, and instructions for using them, are top secret?

Please clarify as to exactly what you are referring to, which you feel cannot be "revealed" by proving that it works?

 

[woof!]

Hi Fellows

When I had my MFD, I found a lots of little stone with micro gold inside, and many time, with 1/2 OZ of gold. I found them many times in the beach, parks, streets, backyard, in everywhere. However, the Geologist say gold can be found only in certain places like rivers, stream, deserts or mountains. How do you explain that?

Arch

Well, since Archie didn't erase his post, I think it should be repeated. Nobody has to open up an LRL/MFD to see if the thing is bogus or not, what users reveal about the things tells the story including the part that inspection of the physical apparatus doesn't tell.

--Toto