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found this last year but have not been able to find any info about it.hopefully someone might have some info about thanks.date says may 1917
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Nice find and a nice piece of history. :) It's a fireman's convention badge/souvenir. You can see the top where the loop has been broken off. It may have looked similar to this one from 1893 or it may have been suspended from a ribbon.....
 

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Firemen's convention attendee's badge. I don't find a detailed history, but I think this would have been one of the organizations that evolved into the State Firemen's and Fire Marshals Association of Texas. The early volunteer firefighter organizations had regular state and regional conventions that were well-attended. I can almost guarantee that they had a panoramic group photo made of the attendees. One might well be found at the San Angelo fire Department or local historical society or any any number of small and large fire departments around the state. Pretty neat piece. These things don't often survive. I've seen plenty of the old group photos from various Texas fire conventions but haven't seen any badges that old. There might be a historian at the SFFMA who would know about that old organization. The conventions were big deals, as you can see by the effort that went into the badges. And the San Angelo Standard newspaper goes back to 188, and they might have archives with a story that might well mention the convention and maybe a list of who attended.

If you really like to research finds and you found this one associated with a home or business site with a known ownership history, you might find out who it belonged to. The owner would have been a member of his local volunteer fire department, and a great many departments have preserved membership rosters from way back. In those days, volunteer departments were commonly manned by the prominent men in the community. If you were a substantial citizen, you were expected to be in the department, so you find bank presidents, business owners, doctors and such on the rosters, often every able-bodied man of means in town. And those same departments often have the old convention photos. It will be a big group of men in black suits, but the resolution is often quite good, and I've used one of them as a source of a photograph of a former fire chief when no other photo could be found. He was outcast on account of leaving his wife and running off with another woman, after which the firemen tried to obliterate all record of him. One day, we had a group of real old timers in the office looking at a convention photo. They were pointing out men they had known who were still around when they started, and they pointed at one man and started cussing him, "And there's that s*o*b* X." And we had our missing chief's photo, which completed our set of all the historical chiefs and annoyed the old timers. Many of the old fire department meeting minutes books are still in existence, and they will probably mention who went to the convention in 1917.
 

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checked with thr san angelo fire department and with the college in san angelo with no results.also tried the paper and library no reply.if i lived closer i would go to the library myself.figured i would be able to find something on the internet but hit a dead end.i would love to find info on it as it as it is one of my favorite finds.found it last year inb may on my wifes birthday.
 

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I'd try the oldest volunteer departments around where you found it. That includes departments that may now be all paid but were volunteer in 1917. The best bets are those that could be considered city departments back then. They are more likely to have had dedicated fire stations where such things as old rosters and photos might be kept. This is the sort of photo it would be:
http://images.indianahistory.org/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/dc013&CISOPTR=11&CISOBOX=1&REC=7

You can see these guys wearing their convention badges. That was a universal feature of the conventions.

Of course, I have no idea if they made such a photo of that convention, but I've seen so many of them that it shows it was the usual thing to do. The photo could be laying around in any fire department or historical society in the state, since they came from all over. And preservation of rosters just depends on things like if an old building was still in use when such things came to be recognized to be historically valuable and on someone making an effort to preserve them. We had them way back to the 19th century, but that was largely because the fire station was very old and for many years also served as city hall and therefore had a vault where old documents accumulated. The old meeting minutes are great. Things like the record of a lieutenant and two firemen being fined five dollars each for sneaking away from practice to a nearby bar.

You know, hoping that the badge was found in the area where the guy who attended the convention lived, if there are old newspaper archives from about the time of the convention, the local paper would likely mention local men going to the convention, that being a worthy piece of local news in a time when papers published stories about everyone who visited or traveled to visit.
 

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