Flat Button Backmark - Military? (already posted in buttons sub-forum)

[MSRelic]

Dug this button yesterday. Appears to be a plain flat button. Nothing on the face. Hopefully you can see the small eagle with shield on its breast just above the shank in the picture. Has anyone come across a button with this backmark? Apologies for the double post. No replies to the post on the button sub-forum. Just trying to get an ID.
Thanks

 

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[timekiller]

http://cgi.ebay.com/DUG-CIVIL-WAR-F...FUNKSTOWN-/230485046548?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0
Take Care,
Pete

 

[MSRelic]

Pete,

That's twice you've helped me in the last week or so. Except for the word GILT on mine, they are the same. Close enough for me though. Looks to be Civil War vintage.

Many thanks.

 

[timekiller]

Pete,

That's twice you've helped me in the last week or so. Except for the word GILT on mine, they are the same. Close enough for me though. Looks to be Civil War vintage.

Many thanks.

Yea after I looked at yours I just went down stairs and looked at mine (flat buttons)I have three different types with the eagles on the back that I can see.One is like his,other two don't have shields and are a bigger eagle coming from out of the shank it self.But I think yours is close to that time frame.Now mine I'm not sure thinking maybe little earlier on. (Interresting) as I don't normally look at mine much.(Just like the earlier ones myself)
Anyhow glad to be of some service to you.

 

[timekiller]

The other two I have are like these.(I don't have a good camera right now) Only cell camera. But they look like these.Exactly!
http://forums.whiteselectronics.com/showthread.php?1923-Eagle-back-button-ID-help-needed
http://www.freewebs.com/neilinwestjersey/apps/photos/photo?photoid=81553018

 

[timekiller]

Just found another But as I said no good camera just cell and it isn't worth a crap for a good shot!
It has bead work around the eagle with three stars under and something around the outside edge I'd have to clean it better to make it out.If I do I'll post it later.

 

[IronSpike]

Cool button MSRelic

Here's a good link with info/examples of this early 1800's type of button:

http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,313687.0.html

Green check

 

[West Jersey Detecting]

Just found another But as I said no good camera just cell and it isn't worth a crap for a good shot!
It has bead work around the eagle with three stars under and something around the outside edge I'd have to clean it better to make it out.If I do I'll post it later.

One of my first buttons was an eagle button exactly like Timekiller's. Many of these civilian buttons were of English manufacture, made for sale in the young United States. These manufacturers were trying to capitalize on the patriotism by using the eagle back marks. They usually date circa 1800.

Military buttons had the eagles on the front, not the back, like this war of 1812 button that I recently dug.

 

[timekiller]

Just found another But as I said no good camera just cell and it isn't worth a crap for a good shot!
It has bead work around the eagle with three stars under and something around the outside edge I'd have to clean it better to make it out.If I do I'll post it later.

One of my first buttons was an eagle button exactly like Timekiller's. Many of these civilian buttons were of English manufacture, made for sale in the young United States. These manufacturers were trying to capitalize on the patriotism by using the eagle back marks. They usually date circa 1800.

Military buttons had the eagles on the front, not the back, like this war of 1812 button that I recently dug.

Yea I barrowed your web site there Neil, Hope you don't mine.I have quite a few of these buttons but my camera is shot from salt and slaming around on the boat.Not really been detecting so have not seen the need yet to fork out the money for another yet as it will be my third in a little over a year.Going to have to leave them home as it can get expensive buying cameras all the time.
Take Care,
Pete
Ps.Are the ones like his that early too.? (with the shield)

 

[West Jersey Detecting]

Just found another But as I said no good camera just cell and it isn't worth a crap for a good shot!
It has bead work around the eagle with three stars under and something around the outside edge I'd have to clean it better to make it out.If I do I'll post it later.

One of my first buttons was an eagle button exactly like Timekiller's. Many of these civilian buttons were of English manufacture, made for sale in the young United States. These manufacturers were trying to capitalize on the patriotism by using the eagle back marks. They usually date circa 1800.

Military buttons had the eagles on the front, not the back, like this war of 1812 button that I recently dug.

Yea I barrowed your web site there Neil, Hope you don't mine.I have quite a few of these buttons but my camera is shot from salt and slaming around on the boat.Not really been detecting so have not seen the need yet to fork out the money for another yet as it will be my third in a little over a year.Going to have to leave them home as it can get expensive buying cameras all the time.
Take Care,
Pete
Ps.Are the ones like his that early too.? (with the shield)

I am not sure, but I thought the shield was mid to later 1800's. As for cameras, I go through them fairly often as well. Sand and zoom lenses are not a good mix! I am not a believer in extended service plans, but the only one I always buy is the digital camera "no questions asked" plan. It costs about $20 extra on a camera that costs $80, but they replaced two cameras already.

My next one may be the Fujifilm FinePix XP10 12 MP Waterproof Digital Camera for around $170:

 

[timekiller]

Just found another But as I said no good camera just cell and it isn't worth a crap for a good shot!
It has bead work around the eagle with three stars under and something around the outside edge I'd have to clean it better to make it out.If I do I'll post it later.

One of my first buttons was an eagle button exactly like Timekiller's. Many of these civilian buttons were of English manufacture, made for sale in the young United States. These manufacturers were trying to capitalize on the patriotism by using the eagle back marks. They usually date circa 1800.

Military buttons had the eagles on the front, not the back, like this war of 1812 button that I recently dug.

Yea I barrowed your web site there Neil, Hope you don't mine.I have quite a few of these buttons but my camera is shot from salt and slaming around on the boat.Not really been detecting so have not seen the need yet to fork out the money for another yet as it will be my third in a little over a year.Going to have to leave them home as it can get expensive buying cameras all the time.
Take Care,
Pete
Ps.Are the ones like his that early too.? (with the shield)

I am not sure, but I thought the shield was mid to later 1800's. As for cameras, I go through them fairly often as well. Sand and zoom lenses are not a good mix! I am not a believer in extended service plans, but the only one I always buy is the digital camera "no questions asked" plan. It costs about $20 extra on a camera that costs $80, but they replaced two cameras already.

My next one may be the Fujifilm FinePix XP10 12 MP Waterproof Digital Camera for around $170:

Thanks Neil for getting back with your thought's!(on the button) As far as cameras go I been going with the Bigger 50mm lens jobs.Been a little over $200.00 each one.Three different types.But all have bit the dust or should I say salt water. But I think those smaller ones are a better bet If I decide to get another for going with me when I go out on the boat.I've had a couple in the past and they took as good a pic as I need when doing what I'm talking.The one you showed looks interresting.Thanks again and Take Care,
Pete

 

[MSRelic]

Cool button MSRelic

Here's a good link with info/examples of this early 1800's type of button:

http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,313687.0.html

Green check

IronSpike thanks for setting me straight and many thanks for that link.

Neil and Pete thanks for your help as well.

Good luck to all you guys.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

I like that waterproof camera. I just purchased the i680 Motorola celphone/camera with web/GPS/radio capabilities. Its rated waterproof in a driving rainstorm and 3 feet underwater for 30 minutes.

 

[IronSpike]

Cool button MSRelic

Here's a good link with info/examples of this early 1800's type of button:

http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,313687.0.html

Green check

IronSpike thanks for setting me straight and many thanks for that link.

Neil and Pete thanks for your help as well.

Good luck to all you guys.

Tnet research some of the best you can get so I love it when I'm able to post a Tnet reference thread and I think the arguments make sense Afterall how many decades would the Brits be able to benefit from this marketing scheme I also agree with Pete and Neil that many of these buttons are found at later sites, however it's also well documented that civilian buttons were used during the CW, which would explain the find of the first button link posted by Pete. I like all the button examples posted

Now that ya'll got new camera's post up the pics