Found a while ago, still unidentified

[Kiros32]

Any ideas? Can't remember where I found it unfortunately.

 

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[Bigcypresshunter]

Might be something for gunpowder or shot. I have seen it before.

 

[Breezie]

I'm with BCH, looks like a powder horn cap. Neat find, Breezie

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Didnt you find one similar? I think yours had a slot opening.

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[kuger]

I do beleive you both are right,although,I dont recall seeing one non threaded?From a shot sack-sock,rather than,"Horn"

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Can somebody pull up this thread? http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php?topic=275597.0;imode

 

[vhs07]

BigCypress, I bumped the old thread

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Thanks. Now I got it. http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php?topic=275597.new#new

 

[Kiros32]

Looks pretty close guys, the age looks right. But wondering what the "shank" looking thing on the inside would have been for? The mechanism for securing this in place on the end of the powder/shot measure perhaps?

 

[kuger]

Looks pretty close guys, the age looks right. But wondering what the "shank" looking thing on the inside would have been for? The mechanism for securing this in place on the end of the powder/shot measure perhaps?

yep,a small chain,would prevent the loss of the cap

 

[bluehunter1973]

I guess he didnt have small chain

 

[kuger]

I guess he didnt have small chain

.......who knows....likely it was iron,and could be rotted away,or the reason he only found the cap.....the chain broke

 

[Kiros32]

Looks pretty close guys, the age looks right. But wondering what the "shank" looking thing on the inside would have been for? The mechanism for securing this in place on the end of the powder/shot measure perhaps?

yep,a small chain,would prevent the loss of the cap

Thanks man. Green checked and moved to the keeper pile!

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

I don't believe it has anything to do with shooting or blackpowder. The shot pouch/flask heads have a notch for the retaining spring, and a horn has two ends to plug. A 1/4" opening (+/-) for the spout and a base plug - which is mechanically attached with pins, pegs or nails. A loose "chained" lid would spill everytime you moved; and when your life depends on dry powder you want a waterproof and solid/secure closure.

I agree with the chain retainer - but likely the other end was a toggle to hold it in the inkwell or Pullman coach brass sink.

 

[kuger]

you may be right Charlie,as I stated,I have never seen a press in style like that one or as shallow for that matter?

 

[Kiros32]

I don't believe it has anything to do with shooting or blackpowder. The shot pouch/flask heads have a notch for the retaining spring, and a horn has two ends to plug. A 1/4" opening (+/-) for the spout and a base plug - which is mechanically attached with pins, pegs or nails. A loose "chained" lid would spill everytime you moved; and when your life depends on dry powder you want a waterproof and solid/secure closure.

I agree with the chain retainer - but likely the other end was a toggle to hold it in the inkwell or Pullman coach brass sink.

Good point, unchecked. Any chance you can find a picture to support your theories? I am quite curious now...

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

An exact match, no. More "concept" examples . . .

But here's a modern version of a small sink trap with a "captive" plug.

Small sink plugs

Captive fixture cap

Victorian era bronze inkwell

 

[kuger]

that would be a tiny sink!!Also a very small opening for a ink vessel?

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

I believe this finial looking item has been posted here before but I cant remember what it is.
It looks like a stopper, first thing I thought, but too small.

 

[Kiros32]

I believe this finial looking item has been posted here before but I cant remember what it is.
It looks like a stopper, first thing I thought, but too small.

I posted it a few years ago, but never got a definitive ID.