Georgia find

[Jcksnghst]

Please help:

This object, in my humble opinion, has been molten and at some point sent airborne until it landed on an early bird-like creature. This occurs to me because of the flame-like pattern on its top and the impressions in its bottom. To my mind's eye it appears as if the feather like impressions include scales that appear as the uniform but not quite round impressions seen in some of the close-up photos made with a magnifying app.

This object can be subjected to a propane torch and it does not retain heat very much at all. The length of time it has been placed under such heat would burn the hand if it were any other metal yet this object barely feels warmed.

The tests were performed at the Jewelry Exchange in Dalton, Georgia by the owner of said jewelry store with him offering eighty-five hundred dollars on the spot stating that he wanted it more for the rarity of the object than the 117 grams +/- of the gold makes up the majority of material present. The owner subsequently called day after day until his offer was in excess of twelve thousand five hundred dollars whereas he was told that the object was no longer available and to please stop calling trying to buy it.

I feel by now I will have either lost your attention entirely or I have successfully satisfied your curiosity as to whether I'm legit in what I am proposing that this object in my possession may actually be.

Again, I want to thank you for any considerations and I beg of you if you do not believe what I am proposing this object may be that you will at least share this conversation and the photos to others that you may deem helpful in identifying or disproving what I say or that may otherwise be in need if a good laugh.

 

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[Jcksnghst]

And a paradox,an enigma and a mystery too!

There's no substitute for actually having it in hand.
I wish the pictures were uploaded in their original size. The second photo shows the metal behind the translucent red material really well.

 

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[boogeyman]

Please help:
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This object can be subjected to a propane torch and it does not retain heat very much at all. The length of time it has been placed under such heat would burn the hand if it were any other metal yet this object barely feels warmed.

The tests were performed at the Jewelry Exchange in Dalton, Georgia by the owner of said jewelry store with him offering eighty-five hundred dollars on the spot stating that he wanted it more for the rarity of the object than the 117 grams +/- of the gold makes up the majority of material present. The owner subsequently called day after day until his offer was in excess of twelve thousand five hundred dollars whereas he was told that the object was no longer available and to please stop calling trying to buy it.

I feel by now I will have either lost your attention entirely or I have successfully satisfied your curiosity as to whether I'm legit in what I am proposing that this object in my possession may actually be.

Again, I want to thank you for any considerations and I beg of you if you do not believe what I am proposing this object may be that you will at least share this conversation and the photos to others that you may deem helpful in identifying or disproving what I say or that may otherwise be in need if a good laugh.l

 

[boogeyman]

Here's a thought. With what you said is in it, and the buyers interest it's probably a bunch of jewelry melted down. Think, bunch of unusual hot jewelry you can't pawn any other way. Melt it & and at least get scrap prices for it.

 

[traveller777]

I wish it were copper... believe it or not everything I wrote is true; the guy at the jewelry exchange in Dalton, Georgia said that man couldn't produce heat enough to create it (I beg to differ considering nuclear), that it had two kinds of gold (whatever that means), silver, and Ruby gemstone (which is what blows my mind knowing the kind of heat that would mean). It was almost closing time and he offered $8,500 right then and there. He did not want it to leave his shop. He said that he wanted it for the rarity of it more than anything else. He kept calling everyday raising his offer until he was finally told it was not available. He kept raising his offer every time reaching $12,500.

This "rock" is a trip. It was literally found in a gravel driveway where some creek rock was brought in, on a truck I assume, and spread in said driveway. The rock was indistinguishable from the other creek rock in the driveway and was only discovered after seeing a tiny bit of shiny that had been exposed due to vehicle traffic running over the rock over time.
(it took a lot of time scrubbing it with scouring pads to remove this outer layer)

I do not know what to do.

I wish it were melted down copper.

I would take his $12,500 in a heartbeat. But that is me. If you want to further determine if it is copper, there are several tests I am sure. One is specific gravity. The guys that already answered you are pretty sharp. A few more folks on here are sharp on this stuff too. But specific gravity does not lie. Wait for somebody else to tell you their opinion or be proactive and do specific gravity. The procedure is all over the internet.

 

[boogeyman]

I would've taken the 1st offer no questions asked but if I was hesitant at the time and got a 2nd offer 4 thousand plus more than the original I would've taken that no questions asked. I would call him tomorrow.

Shop it around some other stores, unless you're down to E & your last smoke.

 

[RJGMC]

Any good scrap metal dealer usually has a handheld spectrometer type instrument to test certain metals like carbide tooling before he buys it. I would have him test it. If not, hotfoot it back to the amazed gentleman at the jewelry store and take his money, in cash and leave. With the green "patina" that it started with, that was extremely hard to get off, copper/brass/bronze alloy of some sort is the likely material. Good luck!

 

[traveller777]

Any good scrap metal dealer usually has a handheld spectrometer type instrument to test certain metals like carbide tooling before he buys it. I would have him test it. If not, hotfoot it back to the amazed gentleman at the jewelry store and take his money, in cash and leave. With the green "patina" that it started with, that was extremely hard to get off, copper/brass/bronze alloy of some sort is the likely material. Good luck!

great idea

 

[GeoW]

There's something in the woodpile!

 

[crashbandicoot]

There's something in the woodpile!

I,ve watched this thread from the beginning and I,m danged if I can see why he hasn,t collected the 12,500.Even if it,s solid .999 gold it,s not worth that much. Mystery.

 

[Jcksnghst]

Here's a thought. With what you said is in it, and the buyers interest it's probably a bunch of jewelry melted down. Think, bunch of unusual hot jewelry you can't pawn any other way. Melt it & and at least get scrap prices for it.

great idea

Apparently you

Why didn't you share the professor's reply to my email:
"

Dear Andy,

My apologies for my late reply. I have been snowed under with work in the last month.

Thanks for sharing the pics. I am sure which tests you applied for determining the presence of gold, ruby, and silver, but I not convinced that this rock contains any of the metals and minerals you mention. It appears to be a metamorphic rock named schist that contains mica (muscovite having a goldenish aspect) with reddish minerals that seem to be similar to garnet.

Best,

Mattia"

 

[Jcksnghst]

Here's a thought. With what you said is in it, and the buyers interest it's probably a bunch of jewelry melted down. Think, bunch of unusual hot jewelry you can't pawn any other way. Melt it & and at least get scrap prices for it.

Are you saying that I have a bunch of stolen jewelry that I've melted down and brought here for what purpose?
How would I have gotten a fire that could melt corundum (ruby)?
I think several people here have the same state of mind that the good professor had.

 

[traveller777]

these replies are running together and getting confusing. I just got quoted on something I did not say. I will not be responding to anything else on this thread.

 

[traveller777]

good luck with this problem. I hope you make a fortune.

 

[Jcksnghst]

The green

Any good scrap metal dealer usually has a handheld spectrometer type instrument to test certain metals like carbide tooling before he buys it. I would have him test it. If not, hotfoot it back to the amazed gentleman at the jewelry store and take his money, in cash and leave. With the green "patina" that it started with, that was extremely hard to get off, copper/brass/bronze alloy of some sort is the likely material. Good luck!

The green patina wasn't patina it was a magnifying app that had a negative effect feature.

 

[crashbandicoot]

Are you saying that I have a bunch of stolen jewelry that I've melted down and brought here for what purpose?
How would I have gotten a fire that could melt corundum (ruby)?
I think several people here have the same state of mind that the good professor had.

He wasn,t accusing you of doing that,just saying that,s what might have happened to bring that to the condition it,s in.An opinion in other words. Why don,t you tell us what you think it is that,s so valuable? The weight in pure gold would not be worth more than the 12,500 you,ve been offered.You,ve tantalized us with a mystery,we,d like to know what it is or what you think it is.Genuine question,you could offer an answer.A real answer.

 

[Jcksnghst]

these replies are running together and getting confusing. I just got quoted on something I did not say. I will not be responding to anything else on this threa

He wasn,t accusing you of doing that,just saying that,s what might have happened to bring that to the condition it,s in.An opinion in other words. Why don,t you tell us what you think it is that,s so valuable? The weight in pure gold would not be worth more than the 12,500 you,ve been offered.You,ve tantalized us with a mystery,we,d like to know what it is or what you think it is.Genuine question,you could offer an answer.A real answer.

I never thought of it like that. I came here wondering if anyone else had seen such a thing as this specimen.
I feel that when an object like this was found in the past it was melted down separating the gold from the corundum and whatever else.
I think it is volcanic. I think it is unique. I personally don't care what the value is or could be, it's not for sale. I wouldn't donate it to them but I think something like this belongs in the Smithsonian.

 

[boogeyman]

Are you saying that I have a bunch of stolen jewelry that I've melted down and brought here for what purpose?
How would I have gotten a fire that could melt corundum (ruby)?
I think several people here have the same state of mind that the good professor had.

NO NO NO!!! NOT SAYING YOU! SAYING you might've found somebody's loot. Think about it. Somebody melted a bunch of jewelry, and the ruby ended up in the melt like slag. You came along with a ton of luck & found it. No way am I implying you're crooked! Like I said, shop it around. Better yet, call around & see if there's a junk yard that has an XRF gun. A lot have them. Obviously it's a blob that was melted and poured into dirt to make an ingot. Think like a crook! You've got a pocketful of easily identifiable jewelry you can't pawn without getting busted, ehadya do? Melt it & sell it for scrap weight. Now for your offer... you do realize the pawn broker is only going to offer you less than 1/4 of it's value. Why? [INSERT PAWN BROKERS MANTRA " Well, I've got overhead.....) If a pawn broker doesn't weigh & test in front of you, pick your item up & walk! And NEVER let them take your item in the back to clean it so they can make an offer!!! It only takes 3 seconds to pop a diamond out of a setting & pop a CZ or glass in.

Again, sorry you thought I was implying you were crooked.

 

[boogeyman]

NO NO NO!!! NOT SAYING YOU! SAYING you might've found somebody's loot. Think about it. Somebody melted a bunch of jewelry, and the ruby ended up in the melt like slag. You came along with a ton of luck & found it. No way am I implying you're crooked! Like I said, shop it around. Better yet, call around & see if there's a junk yard that has an XRF gun. A lot have them. Obviously it's a blob that was melted and poured into dirt to make an ingot. Think like a crook! You've got a pocketful of easily identifiable jewelry you can't pawn without getting busted, ehadya do? Melt it & sell it for scrap weight. Now for your offer... you do realize the pawn broker is only going to offer you less than 1/4 of it's value. Why? [INSERT PAWN BROKERS MANTRA " Well, I've got overhead.....) If a pawn broker doesn't weigh & test in front of you, pick your item up & walk! And NEVER let them take your item in the back to clean it so they can make an offer!!! It only takes 3 seconds to pop a diamond out of a setting & pop a CZ or glass in.

Again, sorry you thought I was implying you were crooked.

One last thing to ponder. Someone above said if it was solid gold & gave a spot price for gold. Since they didn't show you the test or any of the drillings, it could be possible the bulk of it could be platinum. All the metals mentioned can be melted with a propane torch & Mapp gas from home depot. And for the love of God! Stay away from the jewelry store or pawn shop you went to.

 

[crashbandicoot]

I never thought of it like that. I came here wondering if anyone else had seen such a thing as this specimen.
I feel that when an object like this was found in the past it was melted down separating the gold from the corundum and whatever else.
I think it is volcanic. I think it is unique. I personally don't care what the value is or could be, it's not for sale. I wouldn't donate it to them but I think something like this belongs in the Smithsonian.

OK man. You don,t care about the value and it,s not for sale. You think it belongs in the Smithsonian but you wouldn,t donate it to them.I,m still confused,I still don,t have the slightest idea what it is.Please find out and tell us what it is.That,s all I ask,no disparagement meant,just a honest request.

 

[boogeyman]

OK man. You don,t care about the value and it,s not for sale. You think it belongs in the Smithsonian but you wouldn,t donate it to them.I,m still confused,I still don,t have the slightest idea what it is.Please find out and tell us what it is.That,s all I ask,no disparagement meant,just a honest request.

Got POed, took her toys & went home. Post up asking for help then get POed when they don't get the answers they want. Oh well such is life............