Gold Poesy ring UPDATED!! Date CONFIRMED by The British Museum!!

[umrgolf]

UPDATE- After exchanging emails with The British Museum for a second opinion, they were able to date the ring by the maker's mark "1G" The maker was John Greene I, active goldsmith 1630-1663. Here is the confirmation info for anyone interested.. (click on the photo to enlarge the mark) Also, if you look at the writing on the inscription of the ring in this link, it looks strikingly familiar

http://www.britishmuseum.org/resear...on_database/museum_no__provenance_search.aspx


This started Saturday 5/22 at a CW campsite my partner and I had been hunting for the last month or so.. Up until that morning, nothing colonial had been found. The 1640 copper was the first of these finds to be recovered and never thought I could find anything that would compare. Then Monday, I obtained permission at the adjacent property and started out finding a few CW buttons and bullets.. About 2 hours into the hunt I got a signal bouncing between 68-72. Five inches below was the 1666 Spanish Cob (potosi mint, pillars and waves.. the 66 of 1666 is upside down and can be seen on the side with the cross).. No more than 2 hours later I was tired of wandering around and decided to head back to the area where the cob came from. On my way, I got a weak mid 40's signal that was only hitting in one direction. No more than 6 inches down was the posy ring. Fast forward to Wednesday.. My partner (Sentinel) took me to one of his honey holes.. The first find was the 1773 VA halfpenny. The signal was horrible, hitting mid 50's and iron in the opposite direction. As the day was coming to an end, I got a signal that was in the range of a 3 ringer, maybe a couple numbers higher.. I was pretty happy to see a silver disc come out of the hole. After walking over to show Josh what I thought was a Spanish milled reale, we soon realized that it was something much different. It turned out to be a 1697 King William III shilling.


Here are some new pics from last 3 hunts, showing the reverses as well.. and the pictures of the inscription, the halfpenny I left as seen in the last photo below






the god


of peace


our love


increase



the copper on the left side of the pic is a 1773 VA halfpenny which was the only year they were minted (in London) and roughly 600,000 total

 

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[dwayne sueno]

Re: 1697 King William III Shilling & 1773 Virginia Halfpenny

awesome finds again, umr.
can't believe all the stuff your'e pulling out down there!
congrats!
dwayne

 

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[umrgolf]

Re: 1697 King William III Shilling & 1773 Virginia Halfpenny

I've never had a William shilling that good, an absolute beauty It wasn't long off the ship before being lost, judging by it's condition !!.

I was going to say similar, although Dad had a pretty good one & I have had the odd one pretty close, its still a rare find in the UK. More chance of a 16th century hammered

Thanks, I think these are all pretty common finds here in the US.

yeah, just like that tatty gold ring

it's a dud heh

 

[CRUSADER]

Re: 1697 King William III Shilling & 1773 Virginia Halfpenny

I've never had a William shilling that good, an absolute beauty It wasn't long off the ship before being lost, judging by it's condition !!.

I was going to say similar, although Dad had a pretty good one & I have had the odd one pretty close, its still a rare find in the UK. More chance of a 16th century hammered

Thanks, I think these are all pretty common finds here in the US.

yeah, just like that tatty gold ring

it's a dud heh

of course not, I seem to have a hard time joking with you US folk

 

[shaun7]

Re: 1697 King William III Shilling & 1773 Virginia Halfpenny

I've never had a William shilling that good, an absolute beauty It wasn't long off the ship before being lost, judging by it's condition !!.

I was going to say similar, although Dad had a pretty good one & I have had the odd one pretty close, its still a rare find in the UK. More chance of a 16th century hammered

Thanks, I think these are all pretty common finds here in the US.

yeah, just like that tatty gold ring

Should have made the banner!

You got my vote by the way Jeff

 

[umrgolf]

Re: 1697 King William III Shilling & 1773 Virginia Halfpenny

I've never had a William shilling that good, an absolute beauty It wasn't long off the ship before being lost, judging by it's condition !!.

I was going to say similar, although Dad had a pretty good one & I have had the odd one pretty close, its still a rare find in the UK. More chance of a 16th century hammered

Thanks, I think these are all pretty common finds here in the US.

yeah, just like that tatty gold ring

Should have made the banner!

You got my vote by the way Jeff

thank you shaun

 

[nova treasure]

Re: 1697 King William III Shilling & 1773 Virginia Halfpenny

I don't know about this websites banner, but you all sure carry the Banner of excellence for this Years finds.

Nova Treasure

 

[umrgolf]

Re: 1697 King William III Shilling & 1773 Virginia Halfpenny

I don't know about this websites banner, but you all sure carry the Banner of excellence for this Years finds.

Nova Treasure

Thank you nova, that's quite a compliment and much appreciated.

 

[ReidMan]

Re: 1697 King William III Shilling & 1773 Virginia Halfpenny

You the man!!

 

[sneaky6]

Re: 1697 King William III Shilling & 1773 Virginia Halfpenny

Awesome finds!! You all are on a roll!! I can't believe the definition of that 1640 cooper. Any chance to see the reverse side of those coins? You need to starting thinking about opening a museum!!

Keep it up!!
Sneaky6

 

[tuatara]

Re: 1697 King William III Shilling & 1773 Virginia Halfpenny

Mine did

Congrats on making an exception, Shaun

 

[robfinds]

Re: 1697 King William III Shilling & 1773 Virginia Halfpenny

I've never had a William shilling that good, an absolute beauty It wasn't long off the ship before being lost, judging by it's condition !!.

I was going to say similar, although Dad had a pretty good one & I have had the odd one pretty close, its still a rare find in the UK. More chance of a 16th century hammered

Thanks, I think these are all pretty common finds here in the US.

yeah, just like that tatty gold ring

it's a dud heh

of course not, I seem to have a hard time joking with you US folk

Americans don't get irony apparently, how ironic

 

[Brian(upstateNY-Central Fla.)]

Re: 1697 King William III Shilling & 1773 Virginia Halfpenny

Awsome finds for sure

 

[umrgolf]

Re: 1697 King William III Shilling & 1773 Virginia Halfpenny

I've never had a William shilling that good, an absolute beauty It wasn't long off the ship before being lost, judging by it's condition !!.

I was going to say similar, although Dad had a pretty good one & I have had the odd one pretty close, its still a rare find in the UK. More chance of a 16th century hammered

Thanks, I think these are all pretty common finds here in the US.

yeah, just like that tatty gold ring

it's a dud heh

of course not, I seem to have a hard time joking with you US folk

Americans don't get irony apparently, how ironic

"it's a dud heh" ... and you both took me literally?

 

[CRUSADER]

Re: 1697 King William III Shilling & 1773 Virginia Halfpenny

I've never had a William shilling that good, an absolute beauty It wasn't long off the ship before being lost, judging by it's condition !!.

I was going to say similar, although Dad had a pretty good one & I have had the odd one pretty close, its still a rare find in the UK. More chance of a 16th century hammered

Thanks, I think these are all pretty common finds here in the US.

yeah, just like that tatty gold ring

it's a dud heh

of course not, I seem to have a hard time joking with you US folk

Americans don't get irony apparently, how ironic

"it's a dud heh" ... and you both took me literally?

Only because of the 'undecided' face, if a wink, smile or laugh I would have realised.

I maybe didn't say enough on the ring before, because I thought it spoke for itself. I agree it should have made Banner, just like Robfinds should have made it but didn't. Maybe people are more focussed on coins instead of artefacts Personally I don't worry about it, I've had many that I would consider Banner worthy that never made it, & some which were not worthy & did made it. Just best knowing your own mind on these & keep doing what your doing - it workss!

 

[umrgolf]

Re: 1697 King William III Shilling & 1773 Virginia Halfpenny

I've never had a William shilling that good, an absolute beauty It wasn't long off the ship before being lost, judging by it's condition !!.

I was going to say similar, although Dad had a pretty good one & I have had the odd one pretty close, its still a rare find in the UK. More chance of a 16th century hammered

Thanks, I think these are all pretty common finds here in the US.

yeah, just like that tatty gold ring

it's a dud heh

of course not, I seem to have a hard time joking with you US folk

Americans don't get irony apparently, how ironic

"it's a dud heh" ... and you both took me literally?

Only because of the 'undecided' face, if a wink, smile or laugh I would have realised.

I maybe didn't say enough on the ring before, because I thought it spoke for itself. I agree it should have made Banner, just like Robfinds should have made it but didn't. Maybe people are more focussed on coins instead of artefacts Personally I don't worry about it, I've had many that I would consider Banner worthy that never made it, & many some which were not worthy & did made it. Just best knowing your own mind on these & keep doing what your doing - it workss!

I know, I figured u'd pick up on it u seem sharp..I voted for robfinds ring and too agree it should have made it. Thanks Cru

 

[CMDiamonddawg]

Re: 1697 King William III Shilling & 1773 Virginia Halfpenny

I've never had a William shilling that good, an absolute beauty It wasn't long off the ship before being lost, judging by it's condition !!.

I was going to say similar, although Dad had a pretty good one & I have had the odd one pretty close, its still a rare find in the UK. More chance of a 16th century hammered

Thanks, I think these are all pretty common finds here in the US.

yeah, just like that tatty gold ring

it's a dud heh

of course not, I seem to have a hard time joking with you US folk

Americans don't get irony apparently, how ironic

"it's a dud heh" ... and you both took me literally?

Only because of the 'undecided' face, if a wink, smile or laugh I would have realised.

I maybe didn't say enough on the ring before, because I thought it spoke for itself. I agree it should have made Banner, just like Robfinds should have made it but didn't. Maybe people are more focused on coins instead of artifacts Personally I don't worry about it, I've had many that I would consider Banner worthy that never made it, & many some which were not worthy & did made it. Just best knowing your own mind on these & keep doing what your doing - it works!

I know, I figured u'd pick up on it u seem sharp.. That aside, as I said earlier in the thread, this post has zero chance of making banner. I did get angry about it at first because it is significant history that has been saved here, but I had to remind myself its far more significant than this website's banner. I voted for robfinds ring and too agree it should have made it. Thanks Cru

That's exactly correct . Significantly ,Historical & Worthy !!!!! for those who appreciate these finds . Respectfully , move on ! and get back out and find more great stuff for yourself & others to admire

 

[umrgolf]

Re: 1697 King William III Shilling & 1773 Virginia Halfpenny

I've never had a William shilling that good, an absolute beauty It wasn't long off the ship before being lost, judging by it's condition !!.

I was going to say similar, although Dad had a pretty good one & I have had the odd one pretty close, its still a rare find in the UK. More chance of a 16th century hammered

Thanks, I think these are all pretty common finds here in the US.

yeah, just like that tatty gold ring

it's a dud heh

of course not, I seem to have a hard time joking with you US folk

Americans don't get irony apparently, how ironic

"it's a dud heh" ... and you both took me literally?

Only because of the 'undecided' face, if a wink, smile or laugh I would have realised.

I maybe didn't say enough on the ring before, because I thought it spoke for itself. I agree it should have made Banner, just like Robfinds should have made it but didn't. Maybe people are more focused on coins instead of artifacts Personally I don't worry about it, I've had many that I would consider Banner worthy that never made it, & many some which were not worthy & did made it. Just best knowing your own mind on these & keep doing what your doing - it works!

I know, I figured u'd pick up on it u seem sharp.. That aside, as I said earlier in the thread, this post has zero chance of making banner. I did get angry about it at first because it is significant history that has been saved here, but I had to remind myself its far more significant than this website's banner. I voted for robfinds ring and too agree it should have made it. Thanks Cru

That's exactly correct . Significantly ,Historical & Worthy !!!!! for those who appreciate these finds . Respectfully , move on ! and get back out and find more great stuff for yourself & others to admire

true true, good advice.. thanks dawg. ur a good friend as always

 

[Deepdiger60]

Re: 1640 copper, 1666 silver, 1697 silver, 1773 copper, 1705-1712 English posy ring

Incredible finds beyond words hope you don't mind that i copied those pics to my Windows photo gallery to look at once in awhile they give everyone the inspiration to get out and hunt Great find Dd60

 

[Tnrelicman]

Re: 1640 copper, 1666 silver, 1697 silver, 1773 copper, 1705-1712 English posy ring

Great finds, some people never dig 1800 coins, and to dig 1600.....thats amazing in the states, and great ring

 

[umrgolf]

Re: 1640 copper, 1666 silver, 1697 silver, 1773 copper, 1705-1712 English posy ring

Incredible finds beyond words hope you don't mind that i copied those pics to my Windows photo gallery to look at once in awhile they give everyone the inspiration to get out and hunt Great find Dd60

Thanks for the compliment DD60, of course I don't mind at all.

Great finds, some people never dig 1800 coins, and to dig 1600.....thats amazing in the states, and great ring

Thanks Tn, it's been a fun ride