Help me identify some marbles Ive found--PLEASE!

[Charmin]

Help me identify some marbles I've found--PLEASE!

All these marbles were dug up while metal detecting.
I know next to nothing about marbles and would like to learn what each one is.
Could you Marble Experts help me out?
I had some of them posted in another part of the forum with my metal finds. They were all found at homesites that date from the late 1800's to mid 1900's. I've been told the red swirl is a "slag"(?) and the one with rings and bubbles in it might be a handmade stone marble(?).
There is also a white marble that looks handmade--its not perfectly round(kinda lumpy). I found it at a site where I think some Osage Indians lived in the late 1800's. Could this be an Indian "gamestone" instead of a marble?
Thanks for looking and any help!!
kind regards~~sandcreek4

 

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[wheelerite]

Re: Help me identify some marbles I've found--PLEASE!

first one is a red slag, could be from any of the early machine made marble companies, second is a hand made stone marble probably carnelian,last is clay marble.The stone marble was probably made in germany. The clay marble could have but the slag was made 1920 earliest, the hand made stone marble was imported probably late 1800's early nineteen hundreds. I have found a few clays where indians were but there was also people in that spot too so i am not sure if they played with them.I think around here they were more into beads and pretty buttons. just my two cents worth.
ksmith

 

[Charmin]

Re: Help me identify some marbles I've found--PLEASE!

first one is a red slag, could be from any of the early machine made marble companies, second is a hand made stone marble probably carnelian,last is clay marble.The stone marble was probably made in germany. The clay marble could have but the slag was made 1920 earliest, the hand made stone marble was imported probably late 1800's early nineteen hundreds. I have found a few clays where indians were but there was also people in that spot too so i am not sure if they played with them.I think around here they were more into beads and pretty buttons. just my two cents worth.
ksmith

Thanks wheelrite(ksmith)! You're the one who got me interested in these marbles when you made a comment on my other post! I finally got a macro lense for the camera and we took some better pictures of the them. Thanks so much for your comments and info!!
regards~~sandcreek4

 

[ivan salis]

Re: Help me identify some marbles I've found--PLEASE!

clay marvbes normally are quite old -- indain kids that lived near whites learned games from white kids and vice versa --so its possible that the indain kids could have used them or that colonail folks kids played there, as their folks traded with the indains

 

[Charmin]

Re: Help me identify some marbles I've found--PLEASE!

clay marvbes normally are quite old -- indain kids that lived near whites learned games from white kids and vice versa --so its possible that the indain kids could have used them or that colonail folks kids played there, as their folks traded with the indains

The site the white marble came from had a lot of neat relics--a U.S. Indian Department button, a trade brooch, and a hawk bell to name a few. That's kinda why I thought it might be a gamestone. I think the people who lived there were Indians(Osages) but just can't prove it and the house is long gone and only an old cellar hole and water well remain.
Thanks Ivan!! You input is always appreciated!!
regards~~sandcreek4

 

[ivan salis]

Re: Help me identify some marbles I've found--PLEASE!

if its was an indain agency area there most likely there were white "agents" who oversaw the "indains" affairs --- of course indains were "encourged" to adopt white customs -- to teach their children english and in general the indain children were often taught to let their "tradiitional" games and activity's die off in favor of using the "new" white mans games and stuff ---as a form of killing off their heritage . --- indain children who spoke their native tongue and not english were often whipped by their "white" school masters at the schools set up to "teach them to be white"--- the school masters reasoning was the sooner they learned to "be white" the easier things would be for them in the "white mans world" --so it was for their own good to "force them to learn english --and speak only english" by their point of veiw .

 

[Charmin]

Re: Help me identify some marbles I've found--PLEASE!

if its was an indain agency area there most likely there were white "agents" who oversaw the "indains" affairs --- of course indains were "encourged" to adopt white customs -- to teach their children english and in general the children were often tought to let their "tradiitional" games and activity's die off in favor of using the "new" white mans games and stuff ---as a form of killing off their heritage .

Yes, I believe the people possibly worked for the Osage Indian Agency. I think at the time this place was occupied is when the Osages were being "allotted" land here in Osage county. The white marble is the only one that came from this site. It was in the same hole as a Bennington shooter and the hawk bell--that was really cool to dig up that bell and find those two marbles in the hole!! So much history in these pieces and if only they could talk and telll me about the little boy(or girl) who lost these marbles!!
[The other 2 marbles(slag & handmade) came from another site.]
Thanks again, Ivan!
regards~~sandcreek4

 

[allen]

Re: Help me identify some marbles I've found--PLEASE!

those are some great looking finds !!

 

[Road Dog]

Re: Help me identify some marbles I've found--PLEASE!

That Red Slag looks Akro to me.

 

[Charmin]

Re: Help me identify some marbles I've found--PLEASE!

those are some great looking finds !!

Thanks allen!!
regards~~sandcreek4

That Red Slag looks Akro to me.

Thanks Road Dog!
Here's some more from the yard that I found the red slag in.......
regards~~sandcreek4