Help - plated cent, clipped cent (?)

[Twitch]

Found two cent oddities yesterday pictured below. The first one I edge spotted from a MWR. Its an '84, I don't think it's zinc missing the copper coating, I assume it's a regular '84 that someone plated. The next one is a '70 that looks like it's clipped? I've never seen a clipped planchet before so I don't really know what to look for, but the arc is right for another cent and the edge itself doesn't look like PMD to me. Any thoughts are appreciated.

The nickel has two clips out of it, one of them is the right diameter, the other is too flat. I guess it's probably PMD.

The crappy Indian next to it my 5 year old found in try at a Walmart coinstar yesterday. Can't read the date other than the 3rd digit is an 8. I assume it was dug at some point. 2nd Indian in less than a week, found an '07 in a MWR last week.

Yesterday also found a '44-D war nickel in pretty good shape, '62-D and '64 Rosie's, a '64 half and 22 40%ers.

 

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[sagittarius98]

Look for the Blakesley effect:

Curved Clips

 

[Coppercrazy]

Weigh the plated/unplaced one. If it's heavy someone plated it. If it's light check for ANY trace of copper and if you see any 99.9% sure someone just tried to take it off. If you don't see any take it your LCS if they say it might be genuine then go ahead and ship it out to ANACS. They need to be authenticated to sell.