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2 reales, Lima mint and you are right about the King, Phillip II...
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It can further be narrowed down as being between 1568 and early 1571. In that year the pillar and waves changed to the cross. It is almost certainly assayer R (Rincoln), because there are no known examples of a 2 reale denomination with assayer X (Xines) who replaced Rincoln in 1571. Sewal Menzel's book "Cobs, Pieces of Eight and Treasure Coins" refers to your coin as a sub-type Ic (because of the "VSV" being between the pillars).
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Well, obviously it would be worth a good bit more without the corrosion. Is there any documentation about where it came from? If there is a good shipwreck story behind it it might bring $150. Otherwise maybe as low as $40. If I found it I would be happy just to keep it!
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Are we looking at the same coin
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Looks like a Mexico 2 reales...1542 - 1572 (late series-waves present).....Charles and Juana......Philip II
Look in Sedwick's book....
Stan your correct...
Trez
?Looks like a Mexico 2 reales...1542 - 1572 (late series-waves present).....Charles and Juana......Philip II
Look in Sedwick's book....
Stan your correct...
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Hmmm... I can pretty well make out the "I" and "P" form "PHILLIPVS" down around 4 and 5'oclock. The Mexico mint years you mention would say "CAROLVS" in this area.
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Stan (you the man)
you are correct...helps to look at the legend.
I'm retiring.....lol....you have more time.
Now I really am retiring...you even had the book posted above and I missed that too...UUGGG I HATE GETTING OLD and blind. lol
It does look like Lima mint...page 168-169 of Cobs, Pieces of Eight and Treasure Coins "Sewell Menzel"
The Early Spanish-American Mints and Their Coinages 1536-1773.
Glad your here for everyone Stan...
Keep us honest.
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you are correct...helps to look at the legend.
I'm retiring.....lol....you have more time.
Now I really am retiring...you even had the book posted above and I missed that too...UUGGG I HATE GETTING OLD and blind. lol
It does look like Lima mint...page 168-169 of Cobs, Pieces of Eight and Treasure Coins "Sewell Menzel"
The Early Spanish-American Mints and Their Coinages 1536-1773.
Glad your here for everyone Stan...
Keep us honest.
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Hey Trez, you can retire for tonight, but not permanently! I was on my other computer trying to get that image to sharpen up, but I couldn't get much out of it with my imaging software.
I'll have to say when I first looked at it I thought it might be a Potosi transition piece, so I was almost a good 100 years off to start. I didn't even get to the Mexican coins after finding the matchup on the pages you referenced so I could have just as easily been wrong too if I hadn't studied every detail. That's what makes these coins so much fun and it is all to easy for someone like me who is not an expert to make a mistake and not look at every detail.
Anyway, I just got lucky tonight. I'm still trying to figure out what the answer is to that Nazi counterstamp riddle.
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I'll have to say when I first looked at it I thought it might be a Potosi transition piece, so I was almost a good 100 years off to start. I didn't even get to the Mexican coins after finding the matchup on the pages you referenced so I could have just as easily been wrong too if I hadn't studied every detail. That's what makes these coins so much fun and it is all to easy for someone like me who is not an expert to make a mistake and not look at every detail.
Anyway, I just got lucky tonight. I'm still trying to figure out what the answer is to that Nazi counterstamp riddle.
Stan
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