help what kind ,era etc percussion pistol

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granpas gun im 39 had it since my teens when he passed away i got it amongst other curio,s i used to play goodies and baddies bk in the 70,s and 80,s all i know is its supposebley a percussion pistol you guys n gals tell me wat is is plz it has the fire marks on both the barrel and hand piece sorry the pictures aint kodak quallity but hey seen worse lol the barrell is round sounds funny but thers one says octagonal barrel on other post, boot pistol.....this is about 7 inch long double click wen triger pulls back wud like a price aswell but thats not as important than the knowlage about it thanks all hh
 

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I'm not an expert on guns by any means but that's a nice one. Is there any writing any where? I'm thinking that it dates 1840's to 50's. I'm sure someone on here can give you more info though.
 

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just some cosmetic patterns below the cockpiece and a small blank brass plate on the handle doesnt look to ever had any thing on it ....oh and wen its in your right hand rather than the left its feels better and it looks like its a right handed one cause the stock seems to sway to the left it that makes sense in the left hand it looks all crooked to the left i hope that makes sense
 

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vayank54

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I might be wrong but i think someone who really knows guns might be able to tell you the maker by the pattern on the side plates. It's a nice looking gun. Hopefully someone who knows will see this post a give you more info on it.
 

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Can not tell you who made it but it is a boot pistol,, also stashed inside a coat pocket on the inside of the coat usually. The screw barrel is a fuction of loading it, instead on a ramrod you unscrewed the barrel and filled up the screw part with powder and set the ball on top of the threaded portion, then screwed the barrel back down. Some have a key or wrench that went with them, but were commonly lost. Their was no need for a patch as the ball was a little bit bigger than the bore of the barrel. A thousand makers, made thousands of them, so they are common. and rarely go for more than a hundred bucks, for a well marked one. Circa, 1870s
 

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Arid-Zone-A-seeker said:
Can not tell you who made it but it is a boot pistol,, also stashed inside a coat pocket on the inside of the coat usually. The screw barrel is a fuction of loading it, instead on a ramrod you unscrewed the barrel and filled up the screw part with powder and set the ball on top of the threaded portion, then screwed the barrel back down. Some have a key or wrench that went with them, but were commonly lost. Their was no need for a patch as the ball was a little bit bigger than the bore of the barrel. A thousand makers, made thousands of them, so they are common. and rarely go for more than a hundred bucks, for a well marked one. Circa, 1870s
Seeker you obviously know your stuff,but I must disagree on you dates here.Your price is low as well.I know for a fact that these guns date back to at least the 1830's.I have never seen one from after 1860,could you show me one??
Here are a couple similiar(scroll down)note time periods and prices
http://www.denner.ca/weapons/handguns/index.html
http://www.jcmilitaria.com/antique_weapons.asp?Start=12&Offset=6
 

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kuger said:
Arid-Zone-A-seeker said:
Can not tell you who made it but it is a boot pistol,, also stashed inside a coat pocket on the inside of the coat usually. The screw barrel is a fuction of loading it, instead on a ramrod you unscrewed the barrel and filled up the screw part with powder and set the ball on top of the threaded portion, then screwed the barrel back down. Some have a key or wrench that went with them, but were commonly lost. Their was no need for a patch as the ball was a little bit bigger than the bore of the barrel. A thousand makers, made thousands of them, so they are common. and rarely go for more than a hundred bucks, for a well marked one. Circa, 1870s
Seeker you obviously know your stuff,but I must disagree on you dates here.Your price is low as well.I know for a fact that these guns date back to at least the 1830's.I have never seen one from after 1860,could you show me one??
Here are a couple similiar(scroll down)note time periods and prices
http://www.denner.ca/weapons/handguns/index.html
http://www.jcmilitaria.com/antique_weapons.asp?Start=12&Offset=6

The date of this gun is going to be an educated guess. Also, they most certainly did make percussion cap pistols after 1860. In fact, they still make them. Price is a subjective thing. If the gun could be attibuted to a famous maker, it would raise the value. Most common guns of this type although interesting, aren't terribly valuable.

John
 

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they most certainly did make percussion cap pistols after 1860. I am fully aware of that fact,I wasnt born yesterday! :thumbsup:
Your right they arent highly valuable and the rest is subjective,both ways,just stated they date a lot earlier than the 1870's,I have dug em,have you?
 

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kuger said:
they most certainly did make percussion cap pistols after 1860. I am fully aware of that fact,I wasnt born yesterday! :thumbsup:
Your right they arent highly valuable and the rest is subjective,both ways,just stated they date a lot earlier than the 1870's,I have dug em,have you?

I have never dug one. Not sure why that matters ??? I also wasn't trying to be rude. If I rubbed you the wrong way, I apologize for my behavior. Guns can be difficult to date, and that was really all I was pointing out.

John
 

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blurr said:
kuger said:
they most certainly did make percussion cap pistols after 1860. I am fully aware of that fact,I wasnt born yesterday! :thumbsup:
Your right they arent highly valuable and the rest is subjective,both ways,just stated they date a lot earlier than the 1870's,I have dug em,have you?

I have never dug one. Not sure why that matters ??? I also wasn't trying to be rude. If I rubbed you the wrong way, I apologize for my behavior. Guns can be difficult to date, and that was really all I was pointing out.

John
I probably came off wrong as well,I was not jabbing at you,just wondering how many are have been dug as three of my buddies have dug them as well,and always in 1850's camps(early 1850's)It doesnt matter.
Guns are hard to date but,when they were popular models.Beware searching the net for "pocket pistol",as twice now I have picked up a virus.
 

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thanks for all the reply,s everyone its good to know thers ppl on here that can help you gain a bit more knowledge thx again
 

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looked on the sites thers two the the exact same but they gt octogan barrells mine,s circlular barrell r well nice piks thx guys
 

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