HELP! why cant i find loot in the water?

[Dixie Digger]

the beach i hunt is about 1 mile long.low and flat at low tide.very shallow ,you can go out 75 yards and still be waste deep.iv been hunting this beach for a year about 4 days a week and never seen another hunter in the water.about 3 others hunt the sand but no one but me in the water.iv only found 1 ring knee deep at low tide,and iv put in many hours in the water and haven't found $2 in change could the rip tide be covering it up? iv done very good hunting low tide at the water's edge but as soon as i go knee deep or more i get no or few targets? i use my Excal ll and i know it works well as i find pull tabs 12" in the water.i just don't get it? any ideas?

 

[txkickergirl]

I think the place is probably pretty well sanded in. Is there any little cuts or horseshoe curves if so try hunting out from there and just dig anything that makes a sound but that you would never dig because it doesn't really sound like a signal. After a scoop or 2 you should be picking up stronger signal. In the spring the low tides take out the sand so that may be a time hunt. At least that is what I have heard. I do know one spot I hunt that has a bowl like hole. Everything tends to at one time or another collect in it. There are several people who hunt this spot and yet you can usually still pull out a ring or two each hunt.

I know someone else will chime in with better advice, but if people are there, the loot should be to, if no one else is hunting it. Maybe they are hunting at night during low tide?

 

[stitchlips]

the beach i hunt is about 1 mile long.low and flat at low tide.very shallow ,you can go out 75 yards and still be waste deep.iv been hunting this beach for a year about 4 days a week and never seen another hunter in the water.about 3 others hunt the sand but no one but me in the water.iv only found 1 ring knee deep at low tide,and iv put in many hours in the water and haven't found $2 in change could the rip tide be covering it up? iv done very good hunting low tide at the water's edge but as soon as i go knee deep or more i get no or few targets? i use my Excal ll and i know it works well as i find pull tabs 12" in the water.i just don't get it? any ideas?

Are there lots of people swimming and playing in the water? I know where I hunt the whole beach is completely different everyday...That sand really moves around.

 

[Dixie Digger]

yeh there are many dished out places under the water .when you walk its up and down in 1 step and might drop 2' then back up. like little pot holes.there are swimmers every day not hundreds but id say 75 in the water each day. i just dont get it? they have to be loosing something.

 

[SusanMN]

Do you usually hunt at the same time of the day? If so, go later and earlier to see if you're missing the other others. Or maybe someone is hunting at night?

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

Dixie,

It could easily be that the targets have sand covering them deeper then you can see them till a storm removes some of the sand.

I was hunting Daytona last weekend, it was the worst hunt ever. I found a total of 2 quarters, 2 dimes, and 2 pull tabs. I had no other targets at all.

I was using my waterproof sovereign gt, I know from past experience it works great, both in the water and on wet sand and it goes deep. I have the WOT on it and it is a HOT coil, I have pulled good targets up with it that were over 3 full scoops deep with my Beach Brute II scoop, and that was with me standing on it like a shovel and working into the beach till it was buried to the bottom, easily 12" inches. The quarters and dimes I found were deep and signal was not that loud, but that was it.................To make it even more dismal, the eye candy wasn't there like normal either.

There is no way other hunters have cleaned the beach out, I don't believe you can clean Daytona out of good targets, it is too wide and long. I firmly believe it was sanded in so bad that the goodies were too deep for me to see with my detectors. Hoping for a good Northeastern this winter. I don't pray for hurricanes any longer, after 2004 you can keep them, when you get hit 3 times in the same season it is way too much, a good tropical storm is another story and is welcome, but the huricanes can go somewhere else.

I was in North West Arizona on vacation and I want to move there bad. No salt water beaches, but you have several shallow rivers that are used hard and have beaches, plus there are the mountains that have abandon gold and silver mines, as well as old buildings that are 100 years old and older. You also have metorites...........

Maybe one day.........................

 

[Dixie Digger]

there was a lot of sand moved out when Hanna passed my beach but it all moved back in in about 4 days.now its back up to where it was a year ago. i think i will go out deeper now that most of the Sharks are gone.

 

[G.I.B.]

Add people watching to your hunts.

Who are they and what are they wearing, before they go into the water.

I have some really dry areas, where the locals, simply know better. They don't wear jewelery into the water. They don't 'frolic' about, just a little floating around gabbing. The older local crowd does not provide much treasure. Go where there are:

1. Tourists
2. Young ladies wearing lots of jewelry impressing young men
3. Lots of drinking, or in front of a beach-side bar

 

[Sandman]

Treasure Hunter said most of what I was going to say. You need to change your arrival times to see if another is hunting there too, but they still aren't finding it all. It is just deep and even with a Excal's DD coil, you need to overlap a couple inches to cover it all. Those heavy cuts say alot about the way the sand moves in and out.

 

[JP]

Dixie,

it sounds like sand movement to me too. I have been at beaches over a several day period that the sand would move in or out several feet thick. I don't have the experience like a lot of the season pros on here but like most I am still learning.

It sounds like you're not digging junk either. That could be a good sign that the garbage is being washed out, the goodies are left behind but bad sign is that they are burried well out of reach of your coil. As soon as their is more sand movement, with sand going out and swimming area being left deep, you will probably find the good stuff.


The following part is added for others, I can see you have experience with water hunting but this might help newer hunters or those that might want to try this :

I would say to concentrate in the areas where the people are in the day time. I know the beaches that I hunt the greatest concentration of goodies are exactly that. In fact if I were to plot all the finds that myself or my treasure hunting buddies find 90% or so is found in these areas and less and less as you move away from it. Another point, one of the beaches that we hunt is about a quarter of a mile long (this is a beach that fills up from one side to the other, an exception to the rule). It takes me almost 1 hour to go from one side to the other, it's a 2 hour round trip at waist deep. There are times that I don't hit one single target and there are other times that I am digging every 3 feet, mostly pennies. With your beach being almost one mile long that is a lot of area to cover. Try concentrating on the zones where the life guard stations are, areas in line with the restrooms, and the areas that are in line with the entrances but at the shore area. Most people concentrate in these areas, they like to have a land mark or feel safe, and they don't like to walk far with their stuff. These are the points where we find most of our things.

Yes treasure is also found in more remote spots, but it is harder to find and there is less out there in these areas to find.

Good luck and hope to see you post some goodies soon.

 

[thorny196]

I went out this morning and all I got was 14 nails! No clad, bottlecaps or pulltabs from my point of view you did great!!! (but it was very rough)

 

[SandFiddler]

Are you hunting at the old CG station?

 

[Dixie Digger]

Are you hunting at the old CG station?

Yep and Masengale LOL! and EB.