Help with ID and age

[stryder]

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Found this in eastern North Carolina: 10.1-10.8mm diameter and 18.55g. Any ideas?

 

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[ncsuwolf]

The base and rings say old to me, but can’t find a match with that diameter in my books. Others on here should be able to help.

 

[The Rebel]

Looks like someone was board and made a chess/game piece.

 

[BennyV]

Looks like someone was board and made a chess/game piece.

Was going to say camp are from a bullet. I think you’re spot on.

 

[TORRERO]

Looks to be a FIRED bullet, (after it struck something) of what caliber IDK, but seems older because its pure lead, but not anything I've seen that would be considered Civil War..
Personally I would have just bagged it as a spent bullet, the fact that its solid lead says it older, maybe mid 1870s because most modern bullets have some type of brass.

 

[Ism]

Looks to be a FIRED bullet, (after it struck something) of what caliber IDK, but seems older because its pure lead, but not anything I've seen that would be considered Civil War..
Personally I would have just bagged it as a spent bullet, the fact that its solid lead says it older, maybe mid 1870s because most modern bullets have some type of brass.

Agreed, I've read the whitish patina on lead indicates it is around 100yrs or older. The cup in the back should help identify it. I get the feeling that cup on the tail was only used on rifle bullets. I believe two rings indicates post-civil war but I'm just going on memory from other posts I've read over the years. Here are some bullets that fall into the range...10.1-10.8mm (.397-.425).

.401 Winchester Self-Loading

.404 Jeffery

.405 Winchester

.408 CheyTac

.416 Barrett

.416 Remington Magnum

.416 Rigby

This is supposed to be a vintage list.

 

[stryder]

Looks to be a FIRED bullet, (after it struck something) of what caliber IDK, but seems older because its pure lead, but not anything I've seen that would be considered Civil War..
Personally I would have just bagged it as a spent bullet, the fact that its solid lead says it older, maybe mid 1870s because most modern bullets have some type of brass.

Yes, DEFINITELY a fired bullet, you can see the rifling. Smallish caliber has everyone stumped. Thanks for your thoughts

 

[Fredneck]

humm... maybe should have had my coffee first, sure looks like a 3 ringer. Maybe I'm used to seeing a quarter next to them 🙃

 

[Timbermaster]

40-65 bullet fired from an 1886 Winchester at a large buck around 1910.

 

[ncsuwolf]

It's a fired 3 ringer, the age is circa Civil War period. If it was measured correctly at 10.0-10.8mm that falls into a 58 caliber, which isn't small, and also the most common in the CW, To add, there are many 2 ring bullets used during the CW, most of them are Confederate, but if you look closely appears the rifling and expansion has faded the upper ring.

10mm/25.4 =0.394”. So ~.40”. Small

Also….agree that I see a piece of the third “ring”. Not sure if that a ring or the crimp on a brass .40”ish round.

 

[TORRERO]

It's a fired 3 ringer, the age is circa Civil War period. If it was measured correctly at 10.0-10.8mm that falls into a 58 caliber, which isn't small, and also the most common in the CW, To add, there are many 2 ring bullets used during the CW, most of them are Confederate, but if you look closely appears the rifling and expansion has faded the upper ring.

I don't know what your looking at, but clearly there are not 3 rings there... unless one vanished on impact...
The straight lines on the side of the bullet tell me that it was a casing fired bullet, which 3 ringers were not, I've seen a lot of Civil War Bullets, and I even have some with me, and none look even close to that...
but what do I know

 

[Fredneck]

I don't know what your looking at, but clearly there are not 3 rings there... unless one vanished on impact...
The straight lines on the side of the bullet tell me that it was a casing fired bullet, which 3 ringers were not, I've seen a lot of Civil War Bullets, and I even have some with me, and none look even close to that...
but what do I know

10mm/25.4 =0.394”. So ~.40”. Small

Also….agree that I see a piece of the third “ring”. Not sure if that a ring or the crimp on a brass .40”ish round.

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