Hour hunt before work gets me unexpected finds! 1773 1 Real, Draped Bust LC & CW lead

[matt092079]

Hour hunt before work gets me unexpected finds! 1773 1 Real, Draped Bust LC & CW lead

I had about an hour to detect before work this morning and man did it pay off. I have only found 2 cw bullets in this field previously and we pretty much thought this field was a dud. I did my usual walk down the field and found about 5 pull tabs. Came back around and half way I get a good tone, knew it was a bullet and sure enough it was a dropped 3 ringer. About 2 minutes later I get another dropped 3 ringer. So I start to work the area the best I could with the limited time. Got a bouncy signal, but good tone both ways. Cut the plug and thought MAYBE I had a silver, but wasn't sure so I did rub it(I KNOW) and it was a spanish 1 real! I dug 3 spanish silvers last year, but this is my first 1 real! A few minutes go by and then I found a draped bust large cent! Unbelievable!! I'll see if I can get a date off of it later for you guys, but it looks to be in pretty good shape. I was just sitting there laughing after I found that. I thought for sure this field had nothing in it. But the field is HUGE. Just a matter of hitting that right spot. You gotta love this hobby!! Thanks for looking guys and HAPPY HUNTING!!

P.S. I dug 4 of these things pictured and thought at first I had a williams cleaner, but I don't believe that's what they are. They were dug in the same area I dug the other stuff. Any ideas? Thanks!

 

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[materdigger1]

Awsome hunt Matt - better watch out you might get addicted- LOL!

 

[Wildcat1750]

All it takes is a few crucial finds to make a field go from a dud to HUGE! Great finds!!!

 

[VOL1266-X]

I 'm not surprised Matt. You and that turbo charged F75 have dug everything up there except the kitchen sink. Outstanding coins. I wish people in Tennresee weren't broke years ago in the 1700-1800s-LOL Keep it up Bud!! HH, Quindy.

 

[WHADIFIND]

Knowledge, experience and PATIENCE! That's what it always boils down to dontcha think?

Great saves!

HH!

 

[matt092079]

I 'm not surprised Matt. You and that turbo charged F75 have dug everything up there except the kitchen sink. Outstanding coins. I wish people in Tennresee weren't broke years ago in the 1700-1800s-LOL Keep it up Bud!! HH, Quindy.

I'm sure the kitchen sink won't be far behind! Thanks, bud. HH!

 

[matt092079]

I can actually see in the first picture that the large cent appears to be 17?? still need to try and clean it a little.

 

[VERMONTPACKRAT]

I have not been on TNET for most of the winter. Life gets kinda busy for me.......

Seems nice to see the oldies being posted! I am still locked up in ICE.
I am looking forward to spring and your post is great motivation to get my new spots secured for the spring season.

VPR

 

[SilverPirate]

Awesome finds, congrats!

 

[TheCannonballGuy]

Matt092079 wrote:
> I dug 4 of these things pictured and thought at first I had a williams cleaner, but I don't believe
> that's what they are. They were dug in the same area I dug the other stuff. Any ideas?

You didn't say anything about their size, or put a penny next to them in the photo, which makes them much more difficult to ID with any certainty. Also, even guessing about a relic that's still covered in dirt is risky. But okay, going by that single photo, I'll say that they do look like Williams Type 1 "Cleaner" bullets, and each of them has what looks like impact-damage on the opposite end from where the short round stud is. That would seem to suggest they are fired Williams "Cleaner" bullets. Wash them off thoroughly and post more photos (with a penny), please.

If you don't have a Digital Caliper for accurate measuring, and if they are Williams bullets, put an unfired .58 minie's base up against the studded thingie's base, and check the "fit," which will help to confirm or contradict them being Williams bullets (all of which are .58-caliber).

 

[Steve in PA]

Now that's what I call an hour well spent

 

[John Boy]

Congrats buddy.It don't get much better than that.awesome finds

 

[matt092079]

Matt092079 wrote:
> I dug 4 of these things pictured and thought at first I had a williams cleaner, but I don't believe
> that's what they are. They were dug in the same area I dug the other stuff. Any ideas?

You didn't say anything about their size, or put a penny next to them in the photo, which makes them much more difficult to ID with any certainty. Also, even guessing about a relic that's still covered in dirt is risky. But okay, going by that single photo, I'll say that they do look like Williams Type 1 "Cleaner" bullets, and each of them has what looks like impact-damage on the opposite end from where the short round stud is. That would seem to suggest they are fired Williams "Cleaner" bullets. Wash them off thoroughly and post more photos (with a penny), please.

If you don't have a Digital Caliper for accurate measuring, and if they are Williams bullets, put an unfired .58 minie's base up against the studded thingie's base, and check the "fit," which will help to confirm or contradict them being Williams bullets (all of which are .58-caliber).

Sorry, I will clean them up a bit. I didn't have much time to clean up and post pictures of everything. I was just hoping someone would recognize just from appearance. They appeared more modern, just due to the lack of oxidation. I know all bullets don't get the white patina, though. I will post pictures in a bit.

 

[matt092079]

Here's a couple cleaned up pics. Now I'm almost certain these are not williams cleaners. They appear to be a "brass" color with a green color on whatever it is that goes up through the bottom on up through the center. Obviously a modern type slug of some kind I guess?

 

[Bill D. (VA)]

That's some great detecting work in just an hours time Matt. I understand your comment about those huge fields. Sometimes it just takes luck to get you into that one small hotspot. I always wonder how many of those big fields I walked away from and left major relics and coins in the ground. At least now you can feel like you're not wasting your time doing some more exploring there. Great hunt!

 

[matt092079]

That's some great detecting work in just an hours time Matt. I understand your comment about those huge fields. Sometimes it just takes luck to get you into that one small hotspot. I always wonder how many of those big fields I walked away from and left major relics and coins in the ground. At least now you can feel like you're not wasting your time doing some more exploring there. Great hunt!

Almost been detecting for 2 years and drive by this field every morning as it's on the same road that goes back to where we work out of. Pretty amazing what's lurking in the ground and you don't even know it. That also applies to sites that have produced and you have pounded and you think there's nothing else, then out pops a great keeper. This is why you can't beat this hobby!

 

[flyinryan2]

Congrats again man!!! I'm going to put a tracking device on that detector so i know where your finding these coins!! HaHa!! Hope you get a date on that LC!

 

[detroitdigger]

Awesome finds!!!!

 

[TheCannonballGuy]

Matt, thank you for the additional photos of the "stud-base" projectiles, and for putting an unfired minie in a photo for size-comparison. I have to say I've never seen that particular version of projectile before now. The rifling-marks and impact damage seem to prove they are a firearms projectile. The shortness of their body, especially in relation to their large caliber, makes me think they are an exotic type of very-modern shotgun slug. They might be something similar to the slug at far right in the photo below, which has a plastic gas-seal sabot attached to the slug's base. Please post them in the What-Is-it forum, where perhaps one of our modern-ammo guys will recognize them.

 

[matt092079]

Matt, thank you for the additional photos of the "stud-base" projectiles, and for putting an unfired minie in a photo for size-comparison. I have to say I've never seen that particular version of projectile before now. The rifling-marks and impact damage seem to prove they are a firearms projectile. The shortness of their body, especially in relation to their large caliber, makes me think they are an exotic type of very-modern shotgun slug. They might be something similar to the slug at far right in the photo below, which has a plastic gas-seal sabot attached to the slug's base. Please post them in the What-Is-it forum, where perhaps one of our modern-ammo guys will recognize them.

Thank you for you help. I will post it in there as well.